On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> On 8/1/12 2:44 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > > <jogischm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I would like to bring up a new issue for our upcoming release. Thanks to > >> Ariel who brought this to my attention. > >> > >> It is related to our external tarballs where we never got a 100% clear > >> answer. > >> > >> - we host them in ooo/ext_sources > >> - Pedro has already move cat-b stuff to ooo-extras on apache-extras > >> - these tar balls are not part of our src release, they are checked in > >> there for convenience and when we started the project we had to find a > >> place for them to move forward > >> - the tar balls get downloaded on demand during the bootstrap process in > >> our build process > >> - but as fallback only if the original source is not available. > >> - the svn Url is referenced in the external_deps.lst file which is part > >> of the src release > >> > >> Our SVN Url will change if we potentially graduate. This change will > >> break our src release. > >> > >> To avoid potential -1 votes from IPMC members or mentors for the 3.4.1 > >> release and potential problems with our planned graduation I suggest > >> that we fix this problem for 3.4.1. I hate to say that but it means that > >> we have to rebuilt again. But it will avoid potential problems. > >> > > > > So two issues: > > > > 1) Pedro's concerns on Category-b tarballs stored in svn > > > > 2) Infra concerns about a build system that "phones home" and > > downloads additional files from subversion > > > > To resolve both issues we need to remove build dependencies on *all* > > download dependencies on svn tarballs, not just category-b ones. If > > there are only category-a ones we should move them to Apache extras as > > well, right? > > that is how I understand it now as well. We still have to improve to > understand the not written down policies or to ask so long questions > until we get clear answers. > > > > > Or is this not an issue? > > I think that is an issue and that the reason why I proposed a further > rebuild. I would like to avoid further fruitless discussion and to bring > us closer to a release with no surprising negative votes. > > Juergen > > > Hi Juergen -- Thanks for brining this up. This is something we've needed to do for a while. Better now than later. So, yes, this is as good a time as any. A little more delay in 3.4.1 is not a big deal at this point. Best of luck with script building changes. +1 for this suggestion. > > > -Rob > > > >> The related issue is > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120425 > >> > >> This change will only affect the src release builds but we have to pack > >> the office again to include the new version number. > >> > >> I will keep you informed > >> > >> Juergen > >> > >> > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music. As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool." -- Eddie Van Halen
