On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 09/27/2012 10:31 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On 09/25/2012 03:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>> >>>> Should we have a webdev list? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year. >>>> >>>> >>>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project. >>>>> I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the >>>>> work on redesign start growing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Generally everything should be here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Some suggestions on the design of the site: - Show the product, >>>>> currently there is nothing visual that relates the software with >>>>> office productivity. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a >>>> design contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using >>>> the CMS. >>>> >>>> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind >>>> with the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the >>>> headers and footers. >>>> >>>> >>> oh -- OK >>> >>> I need to get back into more extensive learning with the CMS too. :/ >>> >>> >>> Right now, I have some recent mods in >>> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/test/ >>> >>> to deal with the horizontal scrolling and trying to put "constant" items >>> we have in the right side area into permanent areas in the left hand >>> column. >>> >>> We can continue to use this area -- test. I would request that since I am >>> working on "index.html" which I hope to finish up and put into production >>> soon, that new designs be given some different name, along with >>> alternative >>> names for the basic style sheets. >>> >>> [ In this regard, PLEASE HELP fix the styling on my links under the >>> social >>> area. I can not get this line to "move over" to align with the one above >>> AND keep this coloring for the links. Desperately in need of a CSS guru! >>> ] >>> >> >> >> I think the fact that you are no longer using a <p> tag is what makes it >> loose the inherit style. You have <p></p><div ...>Twitter, Google+</div>. >> >> > > Well...all I can tell you is I used many many many permutations yesterday > trying to get this do what I wanted it to. :) to no use... > > I confess I am quite behind in my CSS and at this point. > > I will try to do some quick catch up in this regard, and maybe some rather > large edits are needed to do something as simple as i'd like. I still not totally sure what is the problem maybe I should check the SVN but have u tried using some pseudo classes-elements. I find this site to be helpful: http://w3schools.com/css/css_pseudo_classes.asp at least for reference and remembering stuff. > > > >> >>> >>> >>> - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have >>>> >>>>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site >>>>> could help our users browse through the site. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> yes...another reason to make changes >>> >>> >>> >>> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css >>>> tags in device specific css files that can then be varied according >>>> to the dimensions of the browser. >>>> >>>> >>> That's one of the main reasons I wanted to do this. The two home page >>> columns are now laid out via percentages vs pixel widths. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their >>>> >>>>> own theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like >>>>> the templates/extension/wiki site. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be >>>> ported by the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is >>>> harder. I'm sure that SF can follow as well. >>>> >>>> - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in >>>> >>>>> frameworks (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI. >>>> >>>> Regards, Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk >>>>>> >>>>>>> <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us >>>>>>>> to consider a slight update to the user portal web site -- >>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- for this momentous occasion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test" >>>>>>>> directory, and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> updated >>>>>>> >>>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> horizontal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as >>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present >>>>>>>> graphic >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mockups of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good topic to bring up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two >>>>>>> websites. www.openoffice.org, of course. But also our project >>>>>>> website, which will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The >>>>>>> mailing lists will also update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o --> >>>>>>> d...@openoffice.apache.org. Our subversion tree changes as >>>>>>> well. Ditto for Apache dist directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator" >>>>>>> disclaimer and references. There was talk at one point about >>>>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory >>>>>>> references. There may be others. This is pretty much a search >>>>>>> & replace operation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI. IMHO it is always a >>>>>>> good time to improve the website ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font >>>>>>> on the website. Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's >>>>>>> website, which uses OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To me this is much more legible than our current font >>>>>>> (Liberation?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we >>>>>> graduate, and I thought we were planning on using the area where >>>>>> we have the Apache incubator icon for something else but I'd need >>>>>> to go look that up. >>>>>> >>>>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we >>>>>> had much of anything specified. hmmmm.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can do. -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MzK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean >>>>>>>> the circus has left town." -- George Carlin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> MzK >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the >>>>>> circus has left town." -- George Carlin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice >>>>> http://es.openoffice.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> MzK >>> >>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back >>> doesn't mean the circus has left town." >>> -- George Carlin >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MzK > > "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back > doesn't mean the circus has left town." > -- George Carlin > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
