On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:33 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, that was a lot, but very informative (I have at least 5 markers for > deeper analysis)...but it seems that the top-menu is part of the fixed > design, even the product page uses it. But the product page shows a nice > way of adding another menu system, which I will use. > > Give me a day or two, and I will have that updated. > > As Alexandro pointed out, the site is not big or with big content, that is > on purpose, I wanted to establish a "bare bottom" from where we can build. > > If there are other comments, or suggestions, please let me know, and I will > include it in the update. > > rob: > I hope it is ok, that I bother you to update the site again later this week > ?
Sure, not a problem. If at all possible, it is a good practice to grab the source from Subversion, to a genuine local working copy, and then post your changes, including additions, as a diff file. See: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/svn-basics.html#creating_and_submitting_patches Give it a try, All the cool contributors use Subversion ;-) -Rob > > > On 31 October 2012 22:06, jan iversen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for a swift answer, I will have a look at it, and send you a new >> version...I want to adhere to standards !! >> >> I might rebel from time to time, but then I try to get the standard >> changed instead of violating it. >> >> Jan. >> >> >> On 31 October 2012 21:44, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Someday I will learn how the templates work. I looked at one wiki page, >>> > that explained to use sort of variables, where the merged part should >>> go. >>> > How a template can merge into a full html, well thats pure magic. >>> > >>> > I to not want a special top or bottom....but I do want different menus, >>> > since l10n has different topics. So if the template mingles with header >>> and >>> > body until the menu part, and again on the bottom (apache logo etc.) I >>> will >>> > be more than happy to use the template. >>> > >>> >>> I have not looked into it, but this part of the website seems to >>> handle a local look and feel, along with the site-wide parts: >>> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html >>> >>> Maybe reading through the way it was done here might help: >>> >>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/product/ >>> >>> It looks like they did it entirely as Markdown Text. But that is a >>> minor detail. >>> >>> The real magic happens here, I think, where the site templates are >>> defined: >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/templates/ >>> >>> Note especially: >>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/templates/product/ssi.mdtext >>> >>> Ah, and that then points back to: >>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/product/leftnav.mdtext >>> >>> I'd recommend poking around. Or, if you think the look and feel of >>> the "product" part of the website is good, maybe even just copy that >>> and change the content of the left navigator to reflect the links that >>> you want to highlight? >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > jan >>> > >>> > On 31 October 2012 19:42, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:14 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Rob: I did not quite understand the part about google analytics, >>> should I >>> >> > change something ?? >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> I'd like to hear what Dave thinks on this. He set up the site-wide >>> >> template originally. >>> >> >>> >> > I checked in SVN, and saw that both ooo/index.html and >>> >> ooo/l10n/index.html >>> >> > was committed with the complete html, I had expected the SVN part to >>> be >>> >> the >>> >> > text that goes into the template? >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> Generally we check in complete HTML pages, with <html>, <head> and >>> >> <body>. The template is then applied it does its magic, which >>> >> apparently merges elements in the <head>, applies navigation >>> >> breadcrumbs, the constant license footer, consistent branding on the >>> >> header, etc. I don't fully understand how it works, but most content >>> >> authors can just ignore it. It works that well that most can just >>> >> ignore. >>> >> >>> >> But it looks like you want to adjust the template. We'll see what >>> >> Dave thinks on this. Maybe we need to pipeline things so your changes >>> >> are applied and then the site template is applied. (It kind of looks >>> >> like this is happening now). >>> >> >>> >> > I do not like to copy the top/bottom into every page, which is why I >>> >> used >>> >> > the snip thing. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> Right. But I think what we're seeing now is a fight between the >>> >> site-wide rules and the local ones. >>> >> >>> >> -Rob >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > Jan. >>> >> > >>> >> > On 31 October 2012 19:10, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >> > On 10/31/12, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/l10n-new/ >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > why do we have a different directory, wouldnt it be just better to >>> >> have >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > http://www.openoffice.org/l10n/new.html >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Doesnt make sense to have two Localization projects/folders. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Long term, it does not. For review it is perfectly fine. Once >>> we've >>> >> >> debugged it and are agreed on the new site, then of course we >>> replace >>> >> >> the old directory with this one. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -Rob >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> This is based on a contribution from Jan. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> You can look at the source is Subversion: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/l10n-new/ >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> It looks like Jan is trying some clever work customizing the >>> website >>> >> >> >> template and server-side includes. But it looks like it is >>> >> >> >> conflicting with (or is being applied in duplicate to) the >>> site-wide >>> >> >> >> template. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Dave might have some ideas here. But in general I think we want >>> to >>> >> >> >> avoid having duplicate copies of site-wide items, like Google >>> >> >> >> Analytics declarations. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -Rob >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > Alexandro Colorado >>> >> >> > PPMC Apache OpenOffice >>> >> >> > http://es.openoffice.org >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
