Helen wrote:
Rod, I'm afraid I can't help you but just want to say for the record that
the same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.
I have given up trying to recover the files that were open at the time of
the crash.
Oh, and I don't see anything wrong with your fonts - your original message
was easy for me to read.
I hope this gets solved -- I also prefer the old system, with the automatic
.bak save.


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Rod Lockwood <rodlockw...@provide.net>wrote:

**
It is worse than I suspected. There was no error saving or closing the
files. OpenOffice is crashing while attempting to open the ODT files. Then
is unable to recover them. I tried to open two other files in the same
directory all with the same results. I have a screenshot, if you would like
me to send it.

Maurice, I have no idea what you are referring to. This is the same font
size I have always used which is set to ‘Normal’. I can read it fine
without my glasses, nor is it overly large. You are the first person that
has complained.

--
Sincerely,
Rod Lockwood


On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:02:10 -0400, Maurice Howe <maur...@stny.rr.com>
wrote:

Good. Now that 'incubator' has re-sent your note, we can all read it.

Maurice

-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice Howe [mailto:maur...@stny.rr.com] <maur...@stny.rr.com]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 6:48 PM
To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org; rodlockw...@provide.net
Subject: RE: OpenOffice unable to restore file or open it

Good grief! Don't use 4 point type for ANYthing!! You waste your time
and
everybody else's.
Maurice D. Howe
616 Lacey Drive
Endwell, NY 13760
607-754-0469
maur...@stny.rr.com

_____

From: Rod Lockwood [mailto:rodlockw...@provide.net]<rodlockw...@provide.net]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 6:22 PM
To: OpenOffice Users Mailing List
Subject: OpenOffice unable to restore file or open it


I have a text document that apparently did not close properly when
closing
OpenOffice. Starting OpenOffice 3.41 does not trigger the file
restoration
process. When I click on the file to open it, OpenOffice crashes because
there is already a shadow file in existance. It begins the file
restoration,
but does not recover the shadow file. So I wind up not being able to do
anything. Deleting the shadow file does not work. OpenOffice cannot open
the
document, even though it creates a new shadow document.

This is why I never liked this system. I much prefer the system used by
my
text editor and the way it was done in the old days. Simply save the
file to
disc as a normal file with a .BAK extension every 15 minutes (or whatever
your preference is). That way if the original file is corrupt, you simply
delete the corrupt file, rename the backed up file and you are good to
go.
At the most you lose your allotted time of work. And saving the file
manually obviously didn't make a difference. So forget about any
lectures on
how I should manually save my work periodically.

It does not interfere with the undo process. It does not create multiple
files, just the one back up file. A simple text editor is able to do
this. I
have never lost a file using this old-fashioned system of automatically
backing up the file. Now I will have to recreate this file from scratch
and
from memory.

Have either one of you looked at this: Tools -> Options -> Load and Save -> General? You have a box you can check "Always create a backup copy". Do you use the AutoRecovery property? If so, how many minutes between saves? (This may be the shadow file you mentioned.) When Writer is opened working on a document and you have the AutoRecovery checked, Writer writes a file to the temporary folder on your hard drive. The shortcut to the old fashioned system of automatically backing up a file: Control+S. You use this key combination "automatically" on a regular basis.

--Dan

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