You should also put him in touch with Bob O'Hara -- who is the key person for
the open CMS (sadly pre-VM SP 3) that runs on Hercules. He has already ported
Regina to CMS for that distribution, and I think he was looking at ooRexx. More
hands might make lighter work ...
Bob was the lead for Turbo CMS .. so he really knows his stuff, there.
Mike
_____
From: David Ashley [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 20 December 2010 19:26
To: ooRexxDevel
Subject: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: ooRexx on CMS.]
FYI
David Ashley
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: ooRexx on CMS.]
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:25:08 -0600
From: David Ashley <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
To: Dave Jones <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Dave -
I am replying to you and to our developer mailing list so that this
conversations is documented.
The first thing you need to do is to join the ooRexx developer mailing list at
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel. This will get you
into a conversation with all the active developers. Rick McGuire is our
architect and he also has the most CMS experoence of any of our group. If you
want to tackle CMS first then he is the person you need to create a plan with.
We can all help you with C/C++, Subversion. tools and SourceForge issues. We are
trying to maintain a single source tree for all platforms and we will want to
continue that with an new platforms. There will be issues obviously with ASCII
to EBCDIC conversions and other such issues but Rick and myself can guide you
through those issues.
After you join the mailing list we can begin in ernest. We look forward to your
contributions.
David Ashley
ooRexx Project Team
On 12/20/2010 09:45 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
> Hi, David.
>
> You're in luck...I'm an expert CMS developer. I know a some C, having
> written a few short and simple programs (fwiw, I dislike C) and
> practically no C++ at all, so I would need help with things like "what
> does this C++ code really do?". I've used ooRexx on both Intel Linux and
> zLinux quite a bit, but mostly in the "classic" style.
>
> I believe that the port of ooRexx to CMs will be the more difficult one
> simply because the CMS environment is so radically different from all of
> the others. At least with z/OS, you can start with a port of USS, with
> all of it's normal Unix style tools and environment; CMS offers no such
> comparable environment.
>
> The other main issue with ooRexx on CMS is that ooRexx, being coded in
> C/C++, will require the support of LE; that, in it self, isn't the
> problem because CMS has the latest version of LE available; it's that LE
> itself isn't all that well integrated into the CMS world....you can not,
> for example, code things like CMS Pipeline stages, subcom handlers, or
> RSK routines in any HLL that requires LE. You can write standalone
> programs that require LE with few if any restrictions.
>
> We do have both z/VM 5.4 and 6.1, plus the latest z/VM C/C++ compiler
> here as well as HLASM R6 and a bunch of other IBM CMs development tools,
> so that should pose no problem.
>
> What would you like to do first?
>
> Happy Holidays as well.
> DJ
>
>
> On 12/20/2010 08:21 AM, David Ashley wrote:
>> Dave -
>>
>> We really have two problems in getting ooRexx ported to z/OS and CMS.
>>
>> 1. Hardware to develop the ports.
>> 2. Developer expertise in those environments.
>>
>> We have had several offers for problem one but practically no offers on
>> problem two. None of the current development team have the knowledge to
>> do ports on these platforms and we need that before we can even proceed
>> with any planning.
>>
>> If you know volunteers with even partial knowledge in this area we would
>> be more than happy to have them join our team.
>>
>> Thanks
>> W. David Ashley
>> ooRexx Project Team
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [Fwd: ooRexx on CMS.]
>> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:35:41 +0000
>> From: Chip Davis <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> Organization: Aresti Systems, LLC
>> To: David Ashley <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I keep looking for mainframers interested in shepherding an ooRexx
>> port to z/VM and z/OS. Would you like to contact Dave and see if he
>> is willing to help?
>>
>> -Chip-
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: ooRexx on CMS.
>> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:54:25 -0600
>> From: Dave Jones <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> To: Chip Davis <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hi, Chip.
>>
>>> That's the Open Source evolution of IBM Object REXX, supported by a
>>> team of developers lead by Rick McGuire (an original developer of IBM
>>> OREXX), is freakishly powerful, and currently runs on every major
>>> platform (32/64-bit Windows, Mac, UNIX/Linux, looking into Android) --
>>> except z/VM and Z/OS.
>>>
>>> Believe me, it's not for lack of desire, interest, or love of CMS. We
>>> simply don't have access to the necessary resources (hardware and
>>> wetware) in order to effect a proper port of the (predominately C/C++)
>>> code.
>>>
>>> If you would be interested in contributing in some way to the effort
>>> to port ooRexx to IBM's Flagship Operating System (and/or z/OS ;-)
>>> please go to the ooRexx website www.oorexx.com and contact the Project
>>> Manager, David Ashley.
>>>
>> I can make the hardware and software resources need to do a port of
>> ooRexx over to z/VM (CMS, that is), as well as z/OS. Please pass that
>> along to the proper folks.
>>
>> The "hard" part of this port might focus on the fact that CMS is such a
>> different environment that the ones you mentioned....for example,
>> process and thread support.
>>
>> Happy Holidays, too.
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