On Tuesday 12 April 2005 10:31, Timothy Miller wrote:
> Also, I agree with Ray Let's let this conversation die.  Frankly, I 
> think it's resolved.

Yes, I believe it is.

> Our leaning it towards first producing the 
> prototype board, and using that as leverage to acquire more funding
> or a partner to produce the ASIC.  Everyone will get what they want.

I think so, or I wouldn't be here ;-)

I have managed to get some numbers for part costs for the 3S2000 and 
3S4000 parts, which you have too no doubt.  Small quantities are going 
to be a couple hundred dollars each.  There is little difference 
between the cost of the two parts in small quantities.  Which is fine 
for pre-production prototypes, making it a no-brainer to use the 
3S4000.  I wanted to know what the best price they could do for the 
3S4000 is.  I mentioned that, in the most optimistic scenario, a 
production run might be 5,000 parts.  Of course, we'd have to line up 
pre-orders to even dream about that, but remember, I _am_ dreaming 
right now, and trying to turn that dream into reality.

When we get to the larger quantities, the price difference between the 
3S2000 and 3S4000 gets bigger and bigger, relatively speaking.  I 
haven't got a direct answer yet, but I estimate that the difference 
increases to a factor of 3 or so.  Hopefully I will eventually get an 
answer.

I mentioned a target price for the 3S4000 that is definitely going to 
cause pain in the Xilinx sales department.  But... nobody hung up on 
me.  They're thinking about it.  If they do manage that number and we 
manage to come up with the pre-orders, it makes it a no-brainer to use 
the 3S400 on the full production run too _and_ we can think 
realistically about a price below $200 for the fpga card.  Sound 
interesting?

We can also have the option of soliciting donations for the project, to 
bring down the cost of the fpga card.

Regards,

Daniel
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