This is somewhat non-sense.
Almost every Intel cpu already has / will have a HD graphics. You just
need to select a proper motherboard which got the correct chipset and
plugs to take the signals out.
And AMD does the same.
Laptops have integrated graphics. Or int.+discrete.
Who are you target customers then ??
If you just need programable hardware, going with FPGA from start would
be still better (given the complexity of the boards and packages).
Daniel
On 12/07/2012 04:37 AM, Gregory Carter wrote:
Well, how about this idea:
1) Ivy Bridge CPU with HD4000 graphics on a PCIExpress card.
:-)
It could double as a secondary CPU in systems on desktops if you do not
want the video.
Easy and straightforward to put together too, as most of the interface
for the PCIXpress would be drop chips from Intel sources.
It is Software Open, and provides a revenue stream for the projects
capital requirements.
A laptop card, possibly along the lines of MXM form factor would also be
a cool idea.
This would be the first step and its goal would be to get a open card,
that has a wide number of uses that would support open MESA development/3D.
Given how wildly successful such sales would be on such a card, :-) we
could use the revenue to take the next step: Funding the virtual
execution and design of a open GPU.
2) The second step assuming everything goes decently with #1, would be
to start designing/off loading of the vector/3D functions of the card in
number one to accelerate some very specific things HD4000 graphics are
not yet good at.
So you could take small steps with the design and gradually tack 3D
functions or design elements on custom support chips, gradually building
on the design through maybe 4 generations of cards and eventually
eliminate the IVY bridge processor.
In the mean time though you would have revenue stream, on a very worthy
card I think anyone would buy as you get an extra CPU in your box and
better video support.
I would love such a CPU/video coprocessor in my MXM capable laptop or
full desktop PCIXpress machine.
I think this would be the _fastest_ way to get a neat card out and get
revenue going. Lots of uses for a such a card too.
-gc
On 12/06/2012 07:34 PM, Dieter BSD wrote:
Gregory writes:
I think we need an open system first, and everything else be damned.
For now.
But you can't have everything to start, you need to reach a goal, and
those goals have to be small and well defined.
So how much interest is there in my idea of a graphics card
with a framebuffer and a socket to optionally add the future gpu?
Can we build one with existing off the shelf parts (that have
datasheets)?
The idea is to get a FLOSS-friendly graphics card available
as soon as possible. Many people would find that it is fast enough.
Recent CPUs have a lot of extra "cores" looking for something to do.
Some of us remember when core was memory. :-)
From slashdot:
"The biggest thing E17 brings to the table is universal compositing.
This means you can use a composited desktop without any GPU acceleration
at all, and use it nicely. We don't rely on software fallback
implementations of OpenGL. We literally have a specific software engine
that is so fast that some developers spent weeks using it accidentally,
not realizing they had software compositing on their setup."
Those who want/need the gpu would still have to wait for the chip,
but as soon as the chip is ready the boards for it would already exist,
amd the non-gpu portions of the software would already be written and
debugged. So the gpu users get theirs faster too. win-win!
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