On 3-Nov-09, at 7:32 PM, Dan Scott wrote:

jQuery is certainly the popular choice amongst projects for a
cross-browser JavaScript library today, but unless you're willing to
either load both Dojo + jQuery to get the job done, or to throw out the
custom Evergreen Dojo extensions that already exist such as
openils.fieldmapper for invoking services and instantiating objects via the HTTP translator, I'm not sure that jQuery is the best choice for us.

Hello Dan, I wasn't advocating replacing dojo with jquery. In point one of my brief report, I explained why I chose jquery as a good design tool for the exploration that I was doing, that's all. An implication was though to urge that some sort of javascript library be used to replace the large set of utility functions that is used in the current opac. I see that dojo has now been chosen, but I also see that it hasn't been retrofitted to the opac yet, perhaps in the near future. Mike in his reply has pointed out the new javascript coding in version 1.6, which I am just starting to inspect.

In the longer term, I would advocate moving away from an AJAX-centric
OPAC and moving towards an OPAC that builds the bulk of the page in
plain old HTML on the server side, then use JavaScript for extra
flourishes. The reasons here are two-fold: first, search engines can do
a far better job crawling plain old HTML (that's making the assumption
that visibility of your library's records in general search engines is a
goal); second, cutting down on the dependency on AJAX to provide the
core display data and making all of the corresponding calls on the
server side before returning the HTML should result in much lower
latency for the client, which could only make users happier.


As I said in my reply toJason, I think one of the strengths of the evergreen system is its rich ajax API. It does need careful coding to reduce latency. We have tried putting a simple cacheing layer to reduce the ajax calls; it seems to help for certain interfactions. We have also resequenced the ajax calls in some of the web pages to be more parallel, which helps as well. This last step is made easier if the code is re-organized to make the inherent parallelisms more visible, otherwise one can't see the possibilites. I think we should keep being using ajax but remove latencies through new coding patterns. In any case, the search part of the opac is the 'smaller' part of the interface; the bigger part is the my opac interface and there it makes sense to use ajax.

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steven chan
BC Evergreen Sitka project
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