Jason,

Thank you for your response. I am looking at things from within the staff 
client and not following everything you are saying, but I do know that our 
circulation matrix matchpoints are set so that circulation modifiers are ranked 
at 30 and permission group is ranked at 50. Everything else is set to 0 as we 
are a single library system with very simple rules governing our circulation.

In essence the problem we are having is that by limiting one circulation 
modifier to 5 items, every other circ mod that is limited to 5 is treated as 
one of the 5. So instead of having 5 dvd and 5 magazines checked out at the 
same time we can only have 5 dvds or 5 magazines or a combination of those 
items totaling 5.

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org

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   1. Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups (Deana Cunningham)
   2. Re: Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups (Boyer, Jason A)


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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:16:48 +0000
From: Deana Cunningham <deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups
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Hi all,

We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble 
separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets 
set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have 
Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This 
should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However, for some reason the system is 
seeing them as the same type item (even though I edited the Circulation Limit 
Sets to include the correct circulation modifiers and broke up the original set 
"DVD, Magazine" into two separate sets). So if a patron has 5 magazines out 
they aren't able to check out even one DVD. We also have several other item 
types that are limited because of their type, and I want the system to be able 
to distinguish that a patron can have one item of AV equipment and one of our 
reusable carry bags checked out at the same time - but not two carry bags.

I am also not really clear on the impact of circulation limit groups on these 
policies. Are "sets" specific to items and "groups" specific to people?

I do not know for a fact that this was working in 2.3.2, as it is rare that 
this situation arises, but since I discovered it tonight I have had no success 
in clearing it up. Any advice?

Thanks!

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:24:27 +0000
From: "Boyer, Jason A" <jboy...@library.in.gov>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets &
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This is how we've got things set up in Indiana and they seem to be working well:

We don't use the groups for anything. (They're not at all related to user 
groups, but I'm having a hard time determining the point from a quick glance)

We have 4 entries in config.circ_limit_set: dvds, videos, games, and art. Since 
they're consortium-wide limits, the owning_lib is the consortium and the depth 
is 0.

There's an entry in config.circ_limit_set_circ_mod_map for each circ mod 
affected (i.e. several different dvd-related circ mods tied to the one dvd 
circ_limit_set)

Entries in config.circ_matrix_limit_set_map tie your limit sets to circ matrix 
matchpoints. This is where it may become tricky to apply them without having to 
canvas the whole circ matrix. We only mention circ durations in a single matrix 
matchpoint for each circ_modifier, so we only have 10 links between limit sets 
and those few circ matrix rows. (i.e. one from each dvd-related circ mod row to 
the dvd limit)

We have fallthrough=true on all of them; I think that's to cover the case where 
the first matching circ matrix row isn't connected to a limit, but 
$SRC/OpenILS/src/sql/Pg/100.circ_matrix.sql holds the answer to that question.

I'm sure there's much more you could do (and it would get much more complicated 
if you allow local control) but this is working well for us. I hope it helps!

Jason

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Jason Boyer
Indiana State Library
http://library.in.gov/
317-234-2128

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Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help with Circulation Limit Sets & Groups

Hi all,

We recently migrated from Evergreen 2.3.2 to 2.5.1, and I am having trouble 
separating out Circulation Limit Sets. In 2.3.2 I had Circulation Limit Sets 
set up for the majority of our items (books, etc.) at 999 (unlimited). I have 
Circulation Limit Sets for our DVDs and Magazines (5 items at a time). This 
should be 5 dvd's and 5 magazines max. However, for some reason the system is 
seeing them as the same type item (even though I edited the Circulation Limit 
Sets to include the correct circulation modifiers and broke up the original set 
"DVD, Magazine" into two separate sets). So if a patron has 5 magazines out 
they aren't able to check out even one DVD. We also have several other item 
types that are limited because of their type, and I want the system to be able 
to distinguish that a patron can have one item of AV equipment and one of our 
reusable carry bags checked out at the same time - but not two carry bags.

I am also not really clear on the impact of circulation limit groups on these 
policies. Are "sets" specific to items and "groups" specific to people?

I do not know for a fact that this was working in 2.3.2, as it is rare that 
this situation arises, but since I discovered it tonight I have had no success 
in clearing it up. Any advice?

Thanks!

Deana

Deana Cunningham
Branch Manager, South Branch Library
1550 S. Campus Dr.
Creedmoor, NC 27522
Phone: (919) 528-1752
Fax: (919) 528-1376
deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org<mailto:deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org>
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