Sorry, I missed the first IRC practice time, so I would welcome another class. -- Glen.
***************************** Glen Modell Library Automation Specialist Ann Arbor District Library 734-327-8322 mode...@aadl.org ----- Original Message ----- From: open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:24:36 AM Subject: Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 119, Issue 15 Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org You can reach the person managing the list at open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Should we schedule another IRC practice time? (Yamil Suarez) 2. Re: Should we schedule another IRC practice time? (Carol Yarrison) 3. Evergreen 2.10.3 released (Galen Charlton) 4. Re: Should we schedule another IRC practice time? (scott.tho...@sparkpa.org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:25:21 -0400 From: Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? Message-ID: <canakoqzb4u8evgvc27ogk_jysfrpbbdsys6vxoo4tpwduk5...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Scott, Thanks for the question. One thing I want to bring up for clarity's sake is that IRC is used for two separate things in our community, just like in other open source project communities. First of all it is used as an always-on communication channel, but as well as a platform to hold meetings. Since a good number of community members are already connecting and communicating on IRC, this makes it an easy choice to also have our meetings there. That way the community can read along when a meeting happens in real time, and no new software needs to be installed/used for access. For me one of the biggest advantages of IRC is the fact that it is alway on, automatically logged, and free. Unlike other solutions designed specifically for meetings which in almost all cases have some or all of the following limitations: not free, has participant limits, must have at least one active meeting admin, and creates very large files for meeting recordings. I have been part Evergreen related meetings that were held in some of the platforms that you mentioned. Though we made sure we took minutes to maintain openness, but to be honest once there are more than 5 participants it became hard to not interrupt each other. Also, we had to have at least a single person to fire up the meeting. Hope this helps, Yamil P.S. I will send out another email to pick from a couple of dates for the next practice time. -------------------------------- Yamil Suarez, MCS Library Systems Administrator/Developer Stan Getz Library Berklee College of Music 1140 Boylston St Boston, MA 02215 ysua...@berklee.edu 617-747-2617 On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jason Etheridge <ja...@esilibrary.com> wrote: > >Why has the Evergreen community opted to use IRC chat as an on-line > meeting venue? > > Also, because the developers are there, and they're there for cultural > reasons in addition to the practical reasons. > > And who doesn't like IRC "bots"? :) > > -- > Jason Etheridge > | Community and Migration Manager > | Equinox Software - Open Your Library > | 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > | ja...@esilibrary.com > | http://www.esilibrary.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20160509/1f0b4757/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:54:34 -0400 From: Carol Yarrison <cyarri...@biblio.org> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? Message-ID: <cahrcmrvcupomfsv3fkhcf0qazomqz1evhdnbhwmzzm1jbca...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes, please, I was not able to take part in the full thing. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu> wrote: > Hello, > > Last week the IRC practice time went well, and we had a good bunch of > folks trying out IRC. I wanted to check in if there was interest for a > second practice time. I am all for it, but I wanted to verify that there > was community interest. Remember to include your colleagues that are not on > this list that may want to learn. > > I tend to pick times after 12 noon EST to allow those on the west coast to > join, but I am willing to schedule something in the (east coast) morning > too. > > Thanks in advance, > Yamil > > > > -- “What in the world would we do without our libraries?” ― Katharine Hepburn <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/84099.Katharine_Hepburn> Carol Yarrison Help Desk Coordinator/Trainer Bibliomation, Inc 24 Wooster Ave Waterbury, CT 203-577-4070 x112 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20160509/8f155463/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 19:54:19 -0400 From: Galen Charlton <g...@esilibrary.com> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen 2.10.3 released Message-ID: <CAPLnt65RjZ9m60xbdGoHQTzT4473pM+Oi9rcu=eNobO7OHcB=a...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, We are pleased to announce the release of Evergreen 2.10.3, a critical bugfix release. * Evergreen 2.10.3 fixes a critical bug wherein a newly-registered patron record could not be used to log in to Evergreen using the password supplied during registration. Under some circumstances, the same bug could also prevent patron records that were modified via the patron registration form from being used to log in. * Also, emails sent using the Action Trigger SendEmail reactor now always MIME-encode the From, To, Subject, Bcc, Cc, Reply-To, and Sender headers. As a consequence, non-ASCII character in those fields are more likely to be displayed correctly in email clients. Please visit the downloads page [1] to retrieve the server software and staff clients. Due to the nature of the critical bug fixed in this release, we strongly recommend that users and testers of the 2.10.x series upgrade as soon as possible. [1] https://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / Open Your Library email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & http://evergreen-ils.org ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:24:30 +0000 From: "scott.tho...@sparkpa.org" <scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? Message-ID: <7d39988d08a740479f8b9d874384277c04ab1...@p3pwex4mb009.ex4.secureserver.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thank you, everyone, for your responses. Regarding the cost of another solution, I am sure, if all of the larger consortia contributed, we could come up with something. Having said that, the other reasons everyone gave for using IRC are indeed compelling. Who hasn’t been burned by a Java download when trying to access an on-line meeting? I can’t say I am thrilled. I’d be happy if I never had to see another command prompt in any context and was disappointed that I missed the recent documentation meeting because I could not get IRC to work, but I will avail myself of any practice sessions, and I may yet learn to love IRC. This is all new to me. Thank you again. Scott From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Holly Brennan Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 2:06 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? I’ll chime in, too, as a relative newcomer - IRC was completely new to me three years ago, but I found it easy to learn the more “advanced” ins-and-outs (because there’s really nothing to learn when all you want to do is ask a question) . I like being able to hop on using any browser or program I want, with nothing to install, anytime I’ve needed to. Sadly, I cannot say the same for any of the fancier meeting platforms. Most webinars I’ve used on these platforms require 15 minutes at the beginning of the session to explain how to chat/alert/etc, and there is usually someone who can’t connect to one or more parts. I have found myself in those situations, and I consider myself quite tech-savvy. I love the simplicity (and yes, antiquity) of the IRC interface! (And there are many other benefits, as already stated) -Holly Holly Brennan Technology Specialist Homer Public Library hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov<mailto:hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov> 907-435-3154 (direct) 907-235-3180 (main desk) From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sharp Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 9:46 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? A couple of pro-IRC points to consider as well: - conversations are publicly logged and web-searchable - despite the apparent intimidation factor for new users (mitigated by sessions like Yamil so generously offers), it's a low point of entry - can accommodate hundreds (or thousands) of users who can participate in real time, making meetings truly public (the most I've seen teleconferencing software accommodate is maybe 15, increasing costs for whoever is hosting the meeting) I'm open to individual committees or the Evergreen Oversight Board occasionally using conference software for a more face-to-face feel, but I hope we will continue using IRC for most community business for the above reasons (and the ones Ben mentioned). Just my two cents, Chris On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Ben Shum <b...@evergreener.net<mailto:b...@evergreener.net>> wrote: It's a reasonable question and one we should continue to evaluate over time. One reason we did not always like products like gotomeeting, etc. was cost. While community volunteers could grant access to their organizations resources, the community itself never decided to spend money on platforms. Freenode IRC is free to use. Another reason is cross platform compatibility; some of us used Linux workstations and these did not always play nicely with those applications. After this many years on IRC, it's second nature to me, but I also see the value considering alternative solutions if we can work through all the logistics and continue to keep barriers of access to a minimum. -- Ben Sent from my Nexus 6 On May 9, 2016 12:01 PM, "scott.tho...@sparkpa.org<mailto:scott.tho...@sparkpa.org>" <scott.tho...@sparkpa.org<mailto:scott.tho...@sparkpa.org>> wrote: I’d like to ask a general question about this since I am still fairly new to the community. Why has the Evergreen community opted to use IRC chat as an on-line meeting venue? The one time I used it I found it disconcerting in its antiquated look and feel and had difficulty with the etiquette. Why not use GoToMeeting, Blackboard Collaborate, or a similar product? The chat interface in these products is much closer to what most of us are used to and it would add in the possibility of using VOIP and screen sharing. I’ve been curious about this for a while.... Scott Scott Thomas Executive Director PaILS / SPARK (717) 873-9461<tel:%28717%29%20873-9461> scott.tho...@sparkpa.org<mailto:scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> [Description: Description: Training | SPARK – Pennsylvania's Statewide Library System]<http://www.palibrary.org/pails/> From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] On Behalf Of Barbara Cormack Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 12:46 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? I second what Stuart said; I'd be interested. Thanks! -- Barbara On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Forrest, Stuart <sforr...@bcgov.net<mailto:sforr...@bcgov.net>> wrote: Yes please I missed the last one Stuart From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] On Behalf Of Yamil Suarez Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:59 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice time? Hello, Last week the IRC practice time went well, and we had a good bunch of folks trying out IRC. I wanted to check in if there was interest for a second practice time. I am all for it, but I wanted to verify that there was community interest. Remember to include your colleagues that are not on this list that may want to learn. I tend to pick times after 12 noon EST to allow those on the west coast to join, but I am willing to schedule something in the (east coast) morning too. 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