On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Kristen J. Webb wrote:

Tom Fitzgerald wrote:
Can someone confirm that my assumptions about incremental AFS
backups are correct?

1) Aside from needlessly increasing the size of the dump, there's
   no harm in setting the -time of an incremental dump to be
   substantially earlier than it needs to be.
In my experience, you are correct.

I wouldn't go _substancially_ earlier, but I concur that you're correct. I assume that you're worried about the conversion of wall time in your timezone to epoch time wrt DST changes? I'm not sure about older versions, so I'll leave it to someone more familiar with AFS internals to answer, but I seem to recall that OpenAFS 1.4 and newer stores timestamps in UTC to prevent these issues.

2) If I do a "vos backup X" and later a "vos dump X.backup", then
   later a incremental dump, the -time in the incremental dump
   should be the time of the first "vos backup" (or earlier), not
the full "vos dump".
Yes, but before you do the incremental dump, you need to do another
vos backup ;)

Yes. It's a common mistake to use the time of the dump, rather than the backup, as a reference. But as you've surmised, that can lead to missing changes. I'd personally recommend a "vos backup" immediately before your "vos dump". That way a "vos exam" of the backup volume will always reveal the last time the volume was actually dumped to your media.

Depending on your incremental strategy there are a few more
issues to consider.

If your incrementals are partial (e.g. changes since the
last incremental backup) then you need to ensure that the
vos backup before each incremental actually works, or you
may create a "hole" in your backup data.  We also ran into
problems with time between running on the command line vs.
cron.  Our software compares time stamps in the vos dump
headers to avoid these types of problems.

If your incrementals are cumulative (e.g. changes since
the last full), then if any given vos backup fails, the
next incremental will simply be another copy of the
previous incremental.  You will miss that days changes.
As long as the vos backup problem does not persist, your next
backup should "catch up".

I think I've seen the "cumulative incrementals", which include all changes since the last full, described as "differentials" in the old AFS manuals. Kris' "partial incrementals", which include the changes since the last backup (whether a full, differential, or incremental), were just described as plain "incrementals."

While working on BackupPC4AFS <http://backuppc4afs.sourceforge.net>, I did quite a bit of testing; if your chain of backups includes a missing incremental, you'll lose those changes, but can still restore any newer incrementals that survive. However the changes on that incremental are, of course, gone unless they're in another dump too. In my opinion, a tower of hanoi backup rotation provides plenty of redundancy, unless you're very paranoid.

One other thing to be aware of is that giving the -time option to vos dump makes it look at the files' modification timestamps to determine what to back up. It's very possible to create a file with an old timestamp (using tar, touch, etc) so that it won't be caught by anything except a full backup. Mv'ing a file between volumes is an easy way to accidentally cause this. Just something to be aware of.

Cheers, Stephen
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