>> it still isnt clear to me that i should expect the standard tools to
>> tell me what someone else did.  i can understand wanting to see what
>> some tool might have done automatically because of a restart (or some
>> other failure).
>>
>> if your other admin cant remember what he did, perhaps he should be
>> an admin.  if the other admin cant tell you what he did, perhaps he
>> shouldnt be an admin.  logging isnt meant to solve 'social' issues.
>>
>> yes, this seems draconian but the only solution is audting/logging inside
>> the servers of all the commands so you can completely reconstruct what
>> the other admins are doing.  some people might like this but it really
>> seems like too much to me.
>
> (...re-sent to list...)
>
> Some organizations, like banks, are required to have audit trails for many
> operations. I don't know the regulations, but these logs might not be just
> for social reasons. In some industries, draconian might be considered a
> desirable feature.

plus, we have auditlogs now which if not commands do tell you who executed what
when.
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