If IBM wants backward compatibility they should pay for it. They're
coasting on your work.

What's in a name? Who cares?

Time to move on despite the risks. I'm willing to pay for AFS as long as I
have access to sources under NDA, license or whatever.

Ted

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Russ Allbery <r...@stanford.edu> wrote:

> Troy Benjegerdes <ho...@hozed.org> writes:
>
> > So here's a general question for the list: Would you rather see OpenAFS
> > end with a bang because the community imploded, or with a whimper when
> > all the AFS admins that have been carrying the torch retire and the new
> > CIO moves everyone to iCloud or google drive?
>
> Given those choices (which represent a false dichotomy, but fine, let's
> have this argument anyway), a whimper, because being nasty to other people
> is simply not okay, makes the world a worse place all around, and almost
> never actually helps.
>
> One of the deep flaws in the open source community at large right now,
> seen in all sorts of different projects, is that it has rather a large
> share of technically-competent abrasive assholes who really *like* being
> assholes and don't want to change, and who have therefore invented a
> marvellous little story that they tell themselves about how their behavior
> is actually courageous truthtelling, brutal honesty, a refusal to "settle
> for the status quo," or otherwise part of why they're able to accomplish
> so much good work.  It's all bullshit.  They're just technically-competent
> people who also happen to be assholes.
>
> The actual reason why so much open source work is done by such people is
> not because they're better at it.  It's because they drive off everyone
> who doesn't "have thick skin" or "enjoys robust exchanges of views" or
> whatever today's euphemism is for tolerating abusive behavior, and then
> use the fact that all surviving project members interact like they do as
> proof that their social behavior is acceptable.  It's a self-selecting,
> self-perpetuating ecosystem that I'm increasingly uninterested in
> tolerating.
>
> It's also not actually productive.  There are more technically-competent
> people in the world who like supportive, cooperative projects with
> functional, adult social expectations than people who thrive on abrasive
> conflict.  If one stops tolerating abusive people, one often finds all
> sorts of people contributing who otherwise would take one look at the
> prevailing tone and just quietly walk away.  Everyone is abrasive
> sometimes, but most people *try* not to be and apologize when they slip,
> and those are the kind of people I want to work with.  It's also the kind
> of person that I want to be, and one starts to emulate the people one
> interacts with, for good or for ill.  There are lots of places I could
> spend my time productively; the nature of the community is a primary
> selection criteria.  (I could also go off on an extended discussion of how
> this particular pattern is deeply entangled with the gender bias in open
> source, but I'll spare you.)
>
> Besides, whether one attracts more developers that way or not, it's simply
> the right thing to do, at a level that's considerably more important than
> whether AFS survives as a technology or not.
>
> --
> Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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