Hi Troy, I admire your energy and desire to support openafs but I think this approach would create a lot of angry people. If we deployed this at the university for which I used to work we would have a mob of angry users. We'd end up modifying the source to remove it.
Regarding support, some type of subscription based model could go a long way. One if the reasons (other than frankly ignorance) that OpenAFS was frowned upon at UMBC was our lack of commercial support. I know there are entities that provide support but they seemed to require more effort than clicking a button, selecting my subscription type (X number of FileServers, Y number of "supported" clients, Z number of vldb servers, etc), and typing in a credit card number OpenAFS is the best general purpose, distributed filesystem I've ever used and I would *love* to see it make a rising and ale the industry by storm. I can dream, can't I? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <ho...@hozed.org> wrote: > How about this: > > src/aklog$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../lib ./aklog > This software is free software, and depends on your ongoing support > Please consider a donation to http://openafs.org/Donate > src/tfs/src/aklog$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../lib ./aklog -nonag > src/tfs/src/aklog$ > > After doing this, I realized I need to add this message to 'tokens' > as well. > > Would the developers accept a patch to add this to at least 'aklog' > and 'tokens' ? > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 02:10:23PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: >> I would hope that the donation link would be a more subtle, and equally >> effective incentive. If edu CIO's start getting emails from professors >> asking "Why is this software we depend on asking for donations", maybe >> they'd start looking at their overhead budgets. But that overhead money >> will come from somewhere else.. We better have a story on the donation >> landing page on how much AFS saves vs the 'storage appliance' and 'cloud' >> models that are all the rage among CIOs. >> >> How about a landing page with a survey of "What excessive IT spend would >> you cut in your organization and redirect to AFS?". >> >> One-time deals (on linux) that require interaction will blow up all kinds >> of automated tools and leave the rank and file admins your enemy. >> >> How do you pop up a dialog when aklog is called via the GDM/KDM login via >> pam_aklog, for instance? >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52:51AM -0700, Ted Creedon wrote: >>> My intent was to foment a user uprising resulting in pressure on the .edu & >>> .com level administrators to provide funding from established budgets. More >>> of a corporate funding than individual contributions. >>> >>> Perhaps a cc to the local spreadsheet managers would get the user needs >>> better communicated. >>> >>> I.e. you can't aklog one time only until you fill out the poll, send it in >>> w/cc to local financial folks. >>> >>> Tedc >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <ho...@hozed.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 02:49:08AM -0700, Ted Creedon wrote: >>>> >>>>> How about taking a AFS wide survey using a aklog token driven one time >>>> pop >>>>> up explaining that AFS is not being updated according to industry >>>> standards >>>>> and that it needs substantial financial support. >>>>> >>>>> Most users are charged for computer support one way or another. AFS needs >>>>> to be included just like Microsoft license fees. >>>>> >>>>> I.e. is there any way to get the users fired up? >>>> >>>> I like this. But I think for this to work we need a simple URL like >>>> 'http://openafs.org/donate' that that shows up in the command line aklog >>>> client, and on a clickable link in the GUI client. >>>> >>>> Currently http://static.usenix.org/about/openafs/ is the only 'donate to >>>> OpenAFS' link I can find, but that requires cutting a check. The landing >>>> page for donations needs to accept PayPal, Amazon payments, Dwolla, and >>>> Bitcoin, as well as form to click saying 'My organization uses openafs, >>>> please contact __________ who has purchasing authority' >>>> >>>> I think it would look better to have a full OpenAFS foundation with clear >>>> governance, but for the moment, all that is needed is some consensus to >>>> set up a 'donate' landing page on OpenAFS.org, and someone to set up the >>>> payment arrangements so checks get regularly cut to the address on the >>>> Usenix association page. >>>> >>>> If there is a consensus to go ahead with this, I would be willing to offer >>>> to handle the Dwolla and Bitcoin 'instant donate' links. I can beat >>>> whatever >>>> percentage Amazon and Paypal take and still make it worth my time, and I'll >>>> include the others because it makes for wider audience for contributions. >>>> >>>> If there is not a consensus to go ahead with this within a month or two, >>>> I'm going to (at whatever glacial pace I feel like it) release TFS >>>> version(s) >>>> for Linux, Android, and MacOS that have such a link and donate pages. >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAFS-info mailing list >> OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >> https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info > _______________________________________________ > OpenAFS-info mailing list > OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info _______________________________________________ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info