To avoid multiple threads, let's move this over to the opensmiles list.

On 2 March 2017 at 20:31, Andrew Dalke <da...@dalkescientific.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2017, at 20:34, Craig James <cja...@emolecules.com> wrote:
>> Well, "FIF" violates the OpenSMILES spec in section 3.1.5, which states that 
>> the "organic subset" are only allowed outside of brackets if they're in 
>> their normal lowest-valence state. Actually, now that I read it, it's not 
>> well written and has room for (mis)interpretation. The phrase that I think 
>> applies in OpenSMILES is:
>
> My understanding of Daylight SMILES is that when the explicit valence based 
> on the bonds is higher than the maximum natural valence then the deduced 
> hydrogen count is 0.
>
> For example, quoting 
> http://www.daylight.com/meetings/summerschool98/course/dave/smiles-intro.html 
> :
>
>> In practice, one chemist might represent nitromethane as C[N+](=O)[O-] with 
>> a nitrogen of valence 3 in a charge-separated structure while another might 
>> represent it as CN(=O)=O with a neutral 5-valent nitrogen. Which SMILES is 
>> correct? Both are.
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2017, at 20:34, Craig James <cja...@emolecules.com> wrote:
>> If you can say, "It's obvious ...", and this is a feature everyone would 
>> like, then the OpenSMILES spec could be changed.
>
> I think it should be changed.
>
>                                 Andrew
>                                 da...@dalkescientific.com
>
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