On 16/03/2011 17:41, nms_uk wrote:
Dear all,
I'm using openbabel to compare 2 molfiles. It tells me that the 2 molfiles
has different sp3 stereochemistry.
When I display the molfiles, they look exactly the same.
I have 2 questions:
1- Can 2 molecules with different sp3 stereochemistry be similar (how
significant is it for a chemist)?
The significance of different stereochemistry in biological systems is immense. The drug Thalidomide is a case where one isomer was benign and one a teratogen, with serious consequences for more than 10,000 people.

2- If not, Why do they look the same when displayed?
OpenBabel can display 2D structures:
  obabel molfile1.mol molfile2.mol -O out.svg
The output is attached (view in a browser (not IE)).

The parity of the chiral centre with the hash bond is indeed different in the two molecules, as is reported by the k format.
 obabel molfile1.mol molfile2.mol -ok

To see this, if you look up the hash bond in molfile1, the order of the other attached atoms in a clockwise direction is N C H. The H is not drawn but can be taken to be opposite the hash bond. Doing the same with molfile2, the order is N H C - the opposite parity.

Chris


I draw using http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/edit2/index.html
you can import the molfile and display it.

And here are the 2 molfiles:

molfile1

  25 24  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
    -2.3278   -0.8381    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.7678   -1.1081    0.0000  O  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.3178   -0.3281    0.0000  H  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -1.7378   -1.1781    0.0000  N  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -1.7378   -1.6981    0.0000  O  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -1.1478   -0.8681    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.5778   -1.1881    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.5678   -1.8581    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.0178   -0.8681    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.0078   -0.3381    0.0000  O  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.0078   -2.1981    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.5622   -1.0881    0.0000  N  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.5822    0.1419    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.0022   -2.8581    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.1622   -0.8381    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.1722   -0.1881    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.1522    0.4619    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.5722   -3.1981    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.7322   -1.1781    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.7322   -1.6981    0.0000  O  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.7222    0.1419    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.5722   -3.8481    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.3022   -0.8581    0.0000  N  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.3022   -0.1981    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.8722   -1.1781    0.0000  C  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
  15 16  1  6
  16 13  1  0
  16 21  1  0
  16 17  1  0
   1  2  2  0
   1  3  1  0
   1  4  1  0
  19 15  1  0
  19 20  2  0
  19 23  1  0
  15 12  1  0
  18 14  1  0
  18 22  1  0
  14 11  1  0
  11  8  1  0
   8  7  1  0
   7  6  1  0
   7  9  1  0
   6  4  1  0
   9 12  1  0
   9 10  2  0
  25 23  1  0
  24 23  1  0
   5  4  1  0
M  END

*****************************************************
molfile2

  25 24  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
    -3.5724   -0.6187    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.8579   -1.0313    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.1434   -0.6187    0.0000 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -1.4289   -1.0313    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.7145   -0.6187    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.0000   -1.0313    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.7145   -0.6187    0.0000 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.4289   -1.0313    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.1434   -0.6187    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.8579   -1.0313    0.0000 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.1434    0.2062    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -2.8579   -1.8563    0.0000 H   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.0000   -1.8563    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.4289   -1.8563    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.1434    0.2062    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     3.5724   -0.6187    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.8579   -1.8563    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.7145   -2.2687    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     2.1434   -2.2687    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     1.4289   -2.6812    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
    -0.7145    0.2062    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.0000    0.6187    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.0000    1.4437    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.7145    1.8563    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
     0.7145    2.6812    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   2  1  2  0
   3  2  1  0
   4  3  1  0
   5  4  1  0
   6  5  1  0
   7  6  1  0
   8  7  1  0
   9  8  1  0
  10  9  1  0
   3 11  1  0
   2 12  1  0
   6 13  2  0
   8 14  1  6
   9 15  2  0
  10 16  1  0
  10 17  1  0
  14 18  1  0
  14 19  1  0
  14 20  1  0
   5 21  1  0
  21 22  1  0
  22 23  1  0
  23 24  1  0
  24 25  1  0
M  END

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