Hi, I can not agree more with your statement on Adobe. This is something that a lot of people believe and if Adobe would listen (which they unfortunately don't) they would change something about. It is unfortunate that the community can not relay on the "mothership" to push their favourite language. Stating this in public just brings downs the "fanboys" upon you. Very unfortunate, but alas, that's the way it is.
Believe me, when I say that the people behind OpenBD and Railo are fully dedicated to the language and that your work on CFML will not go in vain. I know them all personally and they are very passionate about pushing CFML. You might find it interesting that several companies have gone behind Railo to make sure that Railo stays here for the coming years. This is a big assurance to us CFML developers to have at least the engine pushing forward, even if Adobe should plan to abandon CF (which they will "hopefully" not do). Regarding your installation issues, I think it is very simple to get all engines running and I'm sure, there are people that can help you with your installation issues and get you going. Kind Regards, Nitai On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM, unknown unknown <[email protected]> wrote: > Its not just Railo or OpenBD that have been difficult to install, even > Adobe's CF9 was not as straightforward as using ASP.NET > > For some reason the CF Administrator won't even load when installing Adobe > CF9 and I found out through some trial and error that it was the IPSec > policy causing it (even on a clean machine). So I have to turn that off in > Services to make it work. I tried Railo and the whole process of changing > ISAPI handlers and stuff are beyond me and I don't have the time/patience to > work it all out and getting myself into a knot where I don't know where the > problem even lies! > > Looking at ASP.NET with C# I can see it is very strict language and seems > almost a backward step to ColdFusion. You have to open and close database > connections and write a lot of code for very little return. It also seems to > be more about using 'controls' like GridViews to get the data out, whereas > using ColdFusion and Dreamweaver has been a breeze for me in the past. > > All things considered, if people believe that ColdFusion will survive and is > still worth the investment then I'm happy to stick with it and use my CF9 > license for now. I really can't afford to spend money on CF10 and Adobe > don't care to give any educational discount so I'm more annoyed with Adobe > than anything. Microsoft gave students all the software for free through > Dreamspark and so it shows they believe in their software and want people to > use it. Adobe are just acting like idiots in my opinion. > > > > On Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:23:21 PM UTC+1, Nitai @ Razuna wrote: >> >> Hi (unknown), >> >> I'm very surprised that you have had problems installing Railo or >> OpenBD. If you invested heavily into CFML, I would think many times >> over if a move to .NET is worthwhile. It is for sure "cheaper" to get >> Railo/OpenBD installed then learning .NET :-) >> >> In any case, there are many good things to come from the OpenCFML >> Foundation and I know many people push CFML again. Give it some time >> and you will see. Other then that, sure it doesn't hurt to learn >> another language. >> >> Just some thoughts. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Nitai >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:59 PM, unknown unknown <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I've been using ColdFusion since 2003 and have been a fan ever since. >> > However in recent years my enthusiasm for it seems to be going nowhere >> > as >> > other people don't recognize it (or even heard of it) hence the job >> > listings >> > are few for CF developers. Adobe don't really seem that bothered about >> > promoting ColdFusion or encouraging developers to take on the language. >> > >> > Given that all my development is done in a Windows environment, I think >> > I am >> > finally going to jump over to ASP.NET. Its free and I get access to the >> > latest features without having to worry about paying out extraordinary >> > amounts for the software and it seems that Adobe couldn't give two cents >> > about the situation. The learning curve is the worst but better than >> > paying >> > $9000 or whatever for the same thing from Adobe. >> > >> > I tried to use Railo but I couldn't even get the thing installed and >> > running >> > correctly. >> > >> > -- >> > online documentation: http://openbd.org/manual/ >> > http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en >> >> >> >> -- >> See for yourself how easy it is to manage files today. 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