Hi Mychaela,

I'd consider Rhizomatica the most successful, but we have run Osmocom
with paying subscribers a few times, notably in Indonesia
(https://kurti.sh/pubs/vbts_itid_15.pdf) and the Philippines
(https://kurti.sh/pubs/Scaling_Community_Cellular_Networks.pdf).
Neither of these are operational at the moment, having been deprecated
for LTE instead (https://kurti.sh/pubs/CoLTE_Mobicom_2019.pdf).
However, each included significant engineering efforts that may be
useful for your own deployment. It can definitely be done and we used
a bulk SIP-Based Voice/SMS provider (Nexmo, now vonage) to do it.

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 10:35 PM Mychaela Falconia
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Osmocom community,
>
> Is there anyone here who uses Osmocom CNI software to operate a "real"
> cellular phone network (2G or 3G or both) anywhere in USA, or am I
> going to be the first?  By "real", I mean operating a cellular phone
> network that strives to provide a user experience to its subscribers
> that is as close as possible to what one would get from a "regular"
> operator like AT&T or T-Mobile, aside from much much smaller coverage
> area, perhaps as small as the operator's house and its immediate
> surroundings.  But aside from the tiny coverage area, all other
> aspects of user experience need to be fully "real": each subscriber
> gets a real 10-digit phone number in the North American Numbering Plan,
> can receive calls and SMS at this number, and can place calls and send
> SMS to the outside world, with the user's real NANP number appearing
> as the source.  The principal difference from a self-contained classic
> NITB setup is that subscribers' MSISDNs are real NANP, rather than
> made-up "extension" numbers, plus a PSTN gateway implementation for
> outside connectivity.
>
> Is there anyone in USA (or anywhere else in the world, substituting
> your country's "real" numbering plan for NANP) who operates an Osmocom
> CNI network in this manner?  If there isn't, I will be happy to be the
> first, and I will also be quite happy to publish the source for all of
> the custom sw components I'm going to develop for this task - which I
> plan to implement as add-ons to Osmocom CNI, connecting via MNCC, SMPP
> and GSUP interfaces, rather than patches to Osmocom sw components
> themselves.  However, if I am not the first to embark on such a
> venture, it would be nice to know how others have done it before me,
> so I can make a more informed decision as to what I can reuse vs which
> wheels I would rather reinvent per my own taste.
>
> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my understanding
> that Rhizomatica (the most "real" and "production" user of Osmocom CNI
> I know of) does things differently from what I envision: aside from
> being in Mexico rather than USA (hence no NANP), it is my understanding
> (again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that they don't give
> their individual subscribers (end users) direct phone numbers in the
> Mexican numbering plan, directly reachable from anywhere in the world
> as +52-xxxxx, instead subscribers get "extension" numbers that are
> meaningful only inside those special village networks.  In other words,
> a PBX-style network like the inside of a company with phone extensions,
> rather than direct PSTN phone numbers.
>
> I currently plan on using bulkvs.com as my North American PSTN
> connectivity back-end provider with real NANP phone numbers, at least
> for voice - I haven't found a solution for P2P SMS connectivity yet,
> but because of the complexity of the task, I decided to break it into
> pieces and focus on just voice at first.  However, if someone else has
> already done something similar, operating your own cellular network
> where your subscribers get real 10-digit NANP phone numbers instead of
> just internal extensions, I would be interested in knowing whom you
> use (or used) as your back-end provider for PSTN connectivity and
> source of phone numbers, and if anyone was able to get P2P SMS
> included in the deal.
>
> M~

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