--As of July 6, 2008 9:52:51 AM -0400, Woodchuck is alleged to have said:

> I just did some reading on UPnP.  It is scary.

That was my first thought too, but on the other hand the protocol just says 
how to request and get open ports.  It doesn't say you _have_ to be granted 
the access you request...

That was one of the things I was looking for in a daemon when I went 
looking: Some way to configure what it will allow and what it won't.

>> There is also a side benefit: Many common chat programs will also use
>> UPnP (or the other common protocol for the same purpose, which the
>> daemon also supports), so this would automatically shut them down for
>> the night as well.
>
> For the whole network, though, not the miscreant, right?

You could probably do either one, depending on your setup and how much work 
you want to put in.  (Changing the daemon config, instead of just shutting 
it down.)

But I'm guessing a single mother won't mind it shut down for the entire 
network at night: It's likely she wouldn't be using it, and enforcing it 
for her son might be a useful side benefit.  Just musing, of course.

>> Anyway, I mostly wanted to mention it as an option, partly because when
>> I went looking for a daemon to support that protocol (for a couple of
>> other things), it took me a while to find one.
>
> Looking at some of the UPnP spex, I'd recommend never connecting
> the Xbox to the same LAN as anything valuable.

Again, a good management program can control some of that: Not everything 
in the spec has to be allowed, if you don't want it to be...

> To be taken lightheartedly, with a grain of salt, but still there's
> a grain of truth here: instead, control the child's excess gaming
> behavior in some other way, like a court order, a padlock, a father,
> or simply let him go ahead with it.  Technical solutions to problems
> of character seldom work in the way expected.  This one will lead
> predictably to rage, and when that cools, evasion.  Or it might
> lead to the kid learning enough 'nix to thwart the tech.

Technical measures do have some place in a larger solution, on occasion, 
though.  If the mother has talked about it with her son, and given 
warnings, then it might be a good temporary measure to make him realize she 
is serious, especially if she doesn't have the resources to enforce that in 
person.  Long term it wouldn't work as the only measure, but as a short 
term 'grounding' it could be effective.

Daniel T. Staal

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