Hi Alex, On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Alex <alexander153...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, maybe I am too optimistic... > > Regarding the rules, I am investigating the following (not impressive): > https://github.com/threatgrid/naga > Atomese is definitely inspired by datalog. About 10 years ago, we actually had a datalog API to the atomspace, it was created by one of the early contributors, and was used by the State of Florida in some web-service. > > https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-21542-6_14 > I keep trying to convince Ben and/or anyone at all to write up the atomspace and submit for publication at one of these conferences, but no one ever does. It would be very cool -- a simple, easy-to-write paper describing the newest ideas -- and ti would be stuff we've already got code for. Free advertising for opencog. > > https://www.google.com/patents/US20150302300 > Heh. Well, we've got lots and lots of prior art for that patent. Foo. > > > Rules over graph database is far less popular theme than graph matching > and mining, but I guess - graph matching is by far the most complex and > important part of the any rule engine. > Yes. Well, once you have the concept of graph matching, then the concept of a rule engine is (should be) "obvious". There are many more things that we've done in the atomspace that are now "obvious" in hindsight, but were not when going forwards. I am not surprised that other people are inventing/rediscovering and implementing these things -- that's what happens when an idea is "obvious". I am somewhat frustrated that some of these other projects get more exposure, more advertising, and become more popular than opencog, and I wish I could change that. I wish that some of the energy expended on creating graph databases had been expended on opencog instead. I wish that the tinkerpop people had used the opencog query language, instead of inventing thier own. Maybe this was the usual java vs. c++ thing. Maybe its the Apache license vs. the GPL license. Some (many?) decisions are political, not technical. Anyway, I am pretty sure that the atomspace design is five or six steps ahead of everyone else, not just one or two. Most of the world has not yet discovered why these steps are important and interesting. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, there will be an Apache Whatever that will also do these things in a faster, more scalable way. Maybe someone will patent these ideas, and we'll have prior art. But right now, there isn't, and I can't wait 5 or 10 years. What is critically important is to make the atomspace better known, easier to understand, more popular, easier to use, more scalable, faster, more efficient. All of this is hard to do, however. --linas > Well - I suggest you not to waste your time on this, I will investigate > further open source projects and then I will report back. I don't want to > disturb anyone from his plans. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "opencog" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/opencog/da088fdb-5d63-45e1-935e-01554e22b575%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/da088fdb-5d63-45e1-935e-01554e22b575%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *"The problem is not that artificial intelligence will get too smart and take over the world," computer scientist Pedro Domingos writes, "the problem is that it's too stupid and already has." * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA34FHKAf%3DzVe6rLZ2JjtvHVhFbX-15YzCq%3Dgx6uXBCnNpQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
