Sergio Miranda Freire schreef: > > Hi Bert, > > > > We designed some archetypes based on openehr demographic rm, and > taking into account ISO/WD 22220 (Identification of subjects of health > care), ISO WD for Provider Identification and our knowledge of how > Brazilian health system works. I will send them to you in a separate > e-mail. Note that they are still a draft and are in Portuguese. > Eventually I may translate them to English, but in the meantime feel > free to ask any questions and use them as you wish. I will also send a > copy to Thomas Beale so that openEHR Foundation may use them as it > sees fit. >
Thank you _very_ much, Serfio, I'll study them tomorrow. I think, I can translate most of ot to English and Dutch without much problems. reggards Bert > > > > Cheers, > > > > Sergio > > > > > > > > *De:* openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org > [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at openehr.org] *Em nome de *Bert Verhees > *Enviada em:* segunda-feira, 8 de setembro de 2008 08:25 > *Para:* For openEHR clinical discussions > *Assunto:* Re: demographic archetypes > > > > Please excuse me for coming back to this, almost a year later. > > Again I am on the point where I want to maintain code for the > EHR-structure. Still I have the same questions..... > > The point is, I can hardly find archetypes based on this, but I find > more archetypes based on more generic data-structures like CLUSTER, > like the nhs-archetypes, listed below, URL has changed since, but they > still exist. But there are almost no archetypes published based on the > Demographic subtree of the RM-model. > > Thomas Beale schreef: > > > Another question, how do people from the NHS, who built many many > > archetypes, but none on demographic base construct their EHR's? > > > in the NHS so far there is no real EHR, only something called PSIS aka > the 'Spine' (see > http://www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/resources/systserv/spine-factsheet). > > This has only a very basic architecture at the moment. They have not > really decided on an EHR architecture yet. > > > That is OK, then, we are not to use the NHS archetypes, I understand. > > Thomas Beale schreef: > > > Does that mean that the demographic classes in the Reference Model > > will > > go the same way? > > > Hi Bert, > > on the contrary, demographic archetypes and demographic a archetype > editor capability will have increased development around them in 2008. > > > The latest version of the Archetype-editor from Ocean (may, 2008) does > still no support this kind of archetypes. > Again, what is the future of the Demographic part of the RM-model? > Still there are not many examples (almost none) and no > software-tooling-support. > > What are the reasons for this? > > Thomas Beale schreef: > > > Now my question, how can we facilitate an EHR-construction, as > > described > > in the documentation, using the available archetype-editors? > > > can you be more precise about what you mean here - building an EHR > itself is not the business of an archetype editor.... > > > I don't understand this. In my opinion, an EHR is build up in > datastructures which are defined by archetypes, some of them are of > based on Demographic. Thus, it is not possible to construct an EHR, > using the archetype-editors as available. > (It is no problem, one can always build an archetype in vi, and test > it afterwards.) > I just want to know what I misunderstand. > > Thomas Beale schreef: > > > Or is it more or less that that we are to use the Party-ref as an > > Object-ref, and do not take the specifications to literally? (because, > > they, f.e. will be updated in the future) > > > can you be more precise here? > > > This was more or less a joke, an EHR-Status contains a Party-Ref. If > the demographic would disappear, (or like NHS, are not used) it is not > possible to create an EHR according to the specs. > But as I said, this was more or less a joke. > > Nevertheless, the practical issues around the demographic puzzle me still. > > So I have two questions > - Is there a repository in which (example) demographic archetypes are? > - When will the Ocean Archetype-editor start supporting demographic > archetypes? > > Thanks, > Bert > > > Ian McNicoll schreef (19-nov-2007): > > Currently at > > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_address.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_address.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_demographics.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_demographics.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_name.v1draft.adl> > > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_telecoms.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.person_telecoms.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.professional_role.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.professional_role.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.care_professional.v1.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.care_professional.v1.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.address.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.address.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v2draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.organisation.v2draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.individual_personal.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.individual_personal.v1draft.adl> > http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.individual_professional.v1draft.adl > > <http://svn.openehr.org/knowledge/archetypes/dev-uk-nhs/adl/openehr/ehr/cluster/openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.individual_professional.v1draft.adl> > > Ian > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical at openehr.org > http://lists.chime.ucl.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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