Hi Tom,

This is a good document - thanks. I have posted this to the clinical list as
well.
http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/am/di
st_dev_model.pdf


My comments:

Page 11:

Current text:
Archetypes based on different classes from the same information model to
have the
same name, e.g. An archetype for 'vital signs' headings based on the SECTION
class, and
a 'vital signs' archetype based on OBSERVATION.

Comment:
I believe there will be archetypes for sections and entry that have the same
name but this is not a good example. The entries for vital signs are BP,
Pulse etc. I think it would be better to just raise the problem or get an
example. The nearest one I can think of is a plural form - e.g: Problems
(Section) and Problem (Entry).

Page 16:

Current text:
Also in common with software, there is a strong interest among archetype and
template users in one
or a few high-level shared libraries of high-quality artefacts rather than
scattered development with
poor quality control. In an ideal world, there might be only a single
repository, or a purely hierarchical
set of repositories. However, we know from experience with software
development that this is
extremely unlikely. Each organisation initially starts out with its own
point of view, timelines and priorities.
If a coherent ecosystem of cooperating repositories, or a single
international repository were
ever to exist, it would be as an emergent result of collaboration among
initially separate authoring
groups, rather than being established at the outset.

Comment:

With my software hat on I concur with your sentiment. The reality is that it
is likely to be the clinical colleges and other stakeholders outside the
software domain that produce the authoritative archetypes that are sought
after. I have no doubt that there will be both entropic and negentropic
forces. I believe that the lowest energy state is so profoundly associated
with collaborative work in this area that we are unlikely to see many
competing efforts. This is for many reasons including:
* There are many choices involved in developing archetypes - each has
implications for other archetypes that have to be developed and maintained,
translated etc
* Clinicians are interested in alignment of recording around best practice
and providing suitable flexibility - this is best done within one or a very
small number of archetypes for a given clinical concept
* Interoperability will be maximised with collaboration around the
development of archetypes and vendors will have a much smaller footprint to
manage
* The cost of creating competing sets of archetypes is massive and probably
not sustainable
* The number of clinicians and technical people in a position to contribute
is not high considering the work required
* Structuring clinical information is more fractal than orthogonal in
nature. Consensus provides a means of getting to grips with the issues and
managing complexity

In essence I am counselling everyone to see the centralised hierarchy of
repositories as infinitely more useful than the software model of go and do,
try, build and lets sort the differences in the future. I guess I am
proposing that archetypes are a lot closer to terminology than software from
a clinical perspective.

Current text:

Other national and institutional repositories are likely to come
online from 2009 onward. This trend appears to be similar to the emergence
of large-scale open
source projects.

The collaborative nature is similar. I hope that the national repositories
will be used more to organise comments and development of archetypes for the
collective effort in these early days than starting out on their own. In the
end I hope the national repositories will be where the releases of largely
international artefacts (with local specialisations) will be managed. Some
archetypes for national or local use will also be developed but these will
be edge cases. I guess I would see archetypes as the operating system of
clinical interoperability if I were to use the technical analogy.

Current text:

Based on the above considerations, the 'modern' model of software
development is
assumed to provide a suitable paradigm for openEHR knowledge artefact
development,
with emphasis on collaborative development of one or a small number of
well-known artefact
repositories.

I therefore do not agree with this statement. It may appear realistic but I
do not think it is sustainable nor to be encouraged. I am interested in what
other people think.

It is really an important consideration. Terminology also could be organised
primarily by country (or even regionally) and then at the core when people
agree on things. If the clinical leaders in the openEHR community agree with
me that we should really work with the centralised model it does not greatly
influence the technical issues in this paper but it does mean we can work
with the assumption that everyone will see a central authoritative source
and then a hierarchy of repositories rather than a flat set of repositories
competing for dominance.

Cheers, Sam 





> -----Original Message-----
> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical-
> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
> Sent: Friday, 5 June 2009 10:28 AM
> To: Openehr-Technical
> Subject: distributed development, governance and artefact
> identification for openEHR
> 
> 
> I have completed drafts of two documents I believe will come to be
> important in openEHR in the near future. The first describes a model of
> distributed development and governance of knowledge artefacts,
> including
> archetypes and templates. The second defines an identification system
> for these artefacts. The first document is a rewrite of a document
> called the 'Archetype System' from previous releases of openEHR, the
> second is new. A detailed description of a governance structure and
> also
> quality assurance will come in later documents, but key aspects of both
> subjects are summarised in the first of the above-mentioned documents.
> 
> These are both development phase documents and are available for
> community review at
> http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/
> am/dist_dev_model.pdf
> and
> http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/
> am/knowledge_id_system.pdf
> 
> A wiki page is available at
> http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Development+and+Governance+of+
> Knowledge+Artefacts
> for discussion purposes.
> 
> All feedback welcome.
> 
> - thomas beale
> 
> 
> 
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