Hi,

Yes this helps. Thank you.

Regards,
Jos? Silva


2013/4/13 Heather Leslie <heather.leslie at oceaninformatics.com>

> Hi Jose,****
>
> ** **
>
> The NEHTA archetypes are recent updates by the Australian/NEHTA community,
> led by Sam as the original openEHR archetype author. So I?d endorse using
> these as a preferred starting point.****
>
> ** **
>
> The Medication List COMPOSITION is intended for use as ?A persistent and
> managed list of medications that are reasonably assumed to be taken by the
> subject, and that may influence clinical decision-making and care provision.
> ?****
>
> ** **
>
> So the Medication List is assumed to be a list of those items to be taken
> on prescription or self-medicated. In a pure openEHR system the
> prescribable list is likely to be predominantly INSTRUCTIONs that can then
> be used as the ongoing order for these to be taken, perhaps with some
> additional ACTIONS that  record the ?over the counter? meds that are being
> taken by the patient. All of these Medication-related ENTRYs can be used by
> decision support to test for drug interactions prior to prescribing.****
>
> ** **
>
> The generation of a prescription from the INSTRUCTION will be stored as a
> Prescription COMPOSITION and will also generate a matching ACTION that
> could then be stored as part of a clinician?s consultation record to record
> that Pill A was prescribed during the clinical visit. The administration
> (by a clinician or self-administered) should generate ACTIONS that will
> record that Pill ?A? was taken at 10 o?clock and may be stored as part of a
> COMPOSITION such as a Progress Note.****
>
> ** **
>
> Does that help?****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards****
>
> ** **
>
> Heather****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* openEHR-clinical [mailto:
> openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Z? Silva
> *Sent:* Saturday, 13 April 2013 1:24 AM
> *To:* For openEHR clinical discussions
> *Subject:* Re: Template for medication records****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> I continued to study the existent archetypes and my result was:
>
> One template for prescriptions where I can plan the medication
> administration.
> This template will contain the following archetypes:
> - openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.prescription.v1
> -- openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.medication.v1
> --- openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.timing.v1
>
> One template to plan my self-medication administration. This medication is
> not connected with any prescription.
> This template will contain the following archetypes:
> - openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.medication_list.v1
> -- openEHR-EHR-INSTRUCTION.medication.v1
> --- openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.timing.v1
>
> One last template for medication administration of the 2 templates above.
> This template will contain the following archetypes:
> - openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.medication_list.v1
> -- openEHR-EHR-ACTION.medication.v1****
>
> ** **
>
> If i understood well, each INSTRUCTION (represented by first 2 templates)
> can have many Activities, each activity can lead to one (take this
> medication at that date/time) or more (take this medication for 3 days at
> that date/time) ACTIONS (represented by last template). This action could
> not be the result of one INSTRUCTION (self-medication).****
>
>  ****
>
> All this archetypes are from http://dcm.nehta.org.au/ckm.****
>
> ** **
>
> If I'm missing or saying something wrong please correct me.****
>
> ** **
>
>
> ****
>
> Regards,
> Jos? Silva****
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/4/11 Sam Heard <sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com>****
>
> Hi Jos?****
>
>  ****
>
> The answer to your question is that your medication order should be an
> INSTRUCTION....this informs of what should take place in the future.
> Administration is recorded with the ACTION class - and administration is
> one of the ?pathway steps? that can be recorded. Have a look at the ACTION
> and INSTRUCTION classes in the specifications (EHR) for more detail.****
>
>  ****
>
> I would go to http://dcm.nehta.org.au/ckm to look at the medication
> instructions and actions there which inform the national messaging. There
> is also a UK CKM coming along and they are working on a medication model
> for the Scotland and the GP2GP project. Ian McNicoll (
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com) is involved.****
>
>  ****
>
> Cheers, Sam****
>
>  ****
>
> Sam Heard
> FRACGP, MRCGP, DRCOG, FACHI
> Consultant & Chairman, Ocean Informatics
> Chairman, openEHR Foundation
> Chairman, NTGPE
> Senior Visiting Research Fellow, University College London****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Z? Silva
> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 April 2013 7:46 PM
> *To:* openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org****
>
>  ****
>
> I'm trying to do a template to support medication records, having each
> medication a person is taking. This medication can be prescribed by a
> clinic or self-medicated (self-initiative). In both cases I want to save
> the date/time of each medication administration. ****
>
>
> For now i have from http://www.openehr.org/ckm/ :****
>
>
> - Medication List - openEHR-EHR-COMPOSITION.medication_list.v1
> -- Medication action - openEHR-EHR-ACTION.medication.v1
> --- Medication description - openEHR-EHR-ITEM_TREE.medication.v1
>
> With this template I can save one list of medication that the person is
> taking but I think I can't save the date/time of the administration.****
>
> ** **
>
> Can someone help me in this formulation?****
>
>
> Regards,
> Jos? Silva****
>
>  ****
>
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