Hi Ian, A regional approach might work for us in AeHIN. If the board can authorize a regional provider, we can discuss details with them...but since it is an openEHR certification, it should be Board-authorized...
alvin On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM, <openehr-clinical-request at lists.openehr.org > wrote: > Send openEHR-clinical mailing list submissions to > openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > openehr-clinical-request at lists.openehr.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > openehr-clinical-owner at lists.openehr.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of openEHR-clinical digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 (Ian McNicoll) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:58:25 +0000 > From: Ian McNicoll <ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com> > To: For openEHR clinical discussions > <openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > Subject: Re: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > Message-ID: > <CAG-n1KxhTBaznXZ7xuEK-cYEG9pGpVbBFWgQsYem5= > tL5j-n+Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Pablo / Evelyn, > > Some very good suggestions and proposals which I am sure the the Board > would consider very carefully. There have been Board discussions about > getting Training Certification established via an Academic Partnership > group, but finding someone with the bandwidth to take this on has been > difficult. > > My main concern is resource and funding. Everyone has to remember that the > Foundation currently operates with zero income stream, and even when we > start to get Industry Partners membership fees, these will be tightly > ring-fenced to support API / RM / tooling development. > > It would be nice to think that the Foundation has resources to 'invest' in > training certification but I do not see any immediate prospect of that > being a reality. The only way that it is going to happen is if some > individual / organisation sees setting up and running a training > certification (endorsed by the Foundation) as a business opportunity. > > I agree with Evelyn that this is not a trivial task, particularly trying to > work on a global basis, with appropriate governance structures and making > sure that the system works fairly. It would have to work so that the > Certifying body took some sort of percentage of course fees but would need > quite a bit of investment of time and money to set up. > > I am not wholly convinced, at this point, that there is a big enough market > in openEHR training (or enough providers) to make this a viable business, > at least as a global activity. If there is local/regional interest, it > might be possible to have training certification run on a regional basis, > under the auspices of Localisation groups. This can also take advantage of > local training certification/governance arrangements e.g in the UK there > are some very tentative discussions to establish openEHR certification > under the auspices of one of the UK Health informatics professional bodies. > That seems to me much more managable. > > In summary, if a proposal for a global openEHR training certification > service was received by the Board, I am sure it would be looked on > favourably, but I am pretty certain it would need to be self-funding and > personally I am not convinced that there is a sufficient market for openEHR > training to make this sort of service viable at an international level. > > Sorry to sound negative but we do need to be realistic. The Board can offer > support and 'validation' but realistically it is most unlikely to be able > to offer investment. > Ian > > > > On 21 February 2014 02:12, pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Evelyn, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for reminding us all about our previous discussions on this > > topic. I have just had a look at the openEHR Foundation Governance > > structure and suggest we propose the establishment of an > Education/Training > > Program responsible to the openEHR Management Board > > > > > > It's a wonderful idea. We can start the proposal by setting a template > > structure like: > > > > > > > > 1. context: why are we doing this? what do we think is missing? how > > the objectives will help to spread openEHR (spreading the work should > a > > common objective of all the programmes) > > 2. objectives: what can we improve? > > 3. plan & methodology: what should we do to reach the objectives? > > 4. conditions: what we need to make this happen? from the foundation, > > from the community, funding, endorsement, sponsorships, ... > > 5. time frame: when to start? when do we need to see results? (I would > > like to manage this as a project with concrete results and decisions > taken > > in a constrained time frame) > > 6. ... > > 7. ... > > > > > > who need to appoint a Program Leader (you may consider doing this? I'm > > happy to be your deputy to get it all started and operational). > > > > > > I can do the job, but only if I'm endorsed by the foundation and the > > community. I would like to know what others think about this. I'm sure > > there are a lot of people more capable than me on organizing this kinds > of > > things, I'm just a doer, not a politician nor a 100% academic guy :) > > > > > > We need to generate suitable terms of reference to be agreed to by the > > openEHR Foundation Board. For example we need to work closely with the > > other Program leaders who should be able to assist in identifying some > > unique roles to get us started in a proper educationally sound manner. > > > > > > Totally agree, e.g. localization is key on training, so we need to be > > close to the localization programme (right now we're a little stuck > there. > > Personally, I'm trying to coordinate some common actions with openEHR > > Brazil, where I'm acting as coordinator to the openEHR in spanish > > community). > > > > > > The focus needs to be on minimum core knowledge/skill requirements for > > each role. There needs to be a fair bit of flexibility in terms of how > the > > training/education is delivered. > > > > > > > > Do you mean knowledge for people participating in the Education Programme > > ? Or the skill set a trainer should have? What are those "roles" you > > mention? > > > > > > The biggest issue I see is funding, as we need someone to manage such a > > program, especially once the openEHR Foundation gets into a > > certification/licensing/accreditation program as this is heavily reliant > on > > a proper governance structure. Also the competency standards themselves > > need to be maintained and updated from time to time. Australian has > several > > Government funded Industry Skills Councils who take on these tasks. An > > alternative is for the openEHR Foundation to simply set the standards via > > its program and outsource the certification/accreditation process on a > user > > pays basis. I guess we need to develop a business case? I'll have a go > at > > that. There are many issues to consider so documenting it in some > organised > > way should assist the openEHR Foundation in their decision making. > > > > > > IMO, the first step is to have a group of people interested in education > > and certification of openEHR related knowledge / skill sets, to create > the > > programme. Then I think we need to come up with different educational > > levels (basic/introductory, intermediate, advanced, expert), different > > roles (clinical, informatician, project management, knowledge management, > > ...), and the matching topics we consider should be taught to those > roles, > > for each level (is a matrix). > > > > > > Then we can analyze different kinds of educational sessions that can be > > done: workshops, master classes, courses (long/short), > talks/presentations, > > ... for each of these kinds we can propose some kind of formal > > certification from openEHR foundation. > > > > > > Of course, we need to have a place to think about how and who will train > > trainers than can give those kinds of sessions, to get a certificate from > > openEHR foundation. > > > > > > Then think about costs, funding, how the foundation will get money in > > interchange of endorsing the training instances and certifications, how > > much that will cost (IMO should be based on a %). But we can have courses > > in one hand, and exams in the other (is like when getting certified with > > PMP from PMI you pay for the course and for the exam). > > > > > > Also, I think is key that we reach a common core of topics that should be > > taught in all the introductory/intermediate courses, then each educator > can > > make local changes. But I don't know if we can agree on having a common > > basic set of materials (presentations, documents, papers, practices, > etc). > > > > > > > > Perhaps we can get Gov't and other stakeholder funding as it is in their > > interest to have a suitably skilled workforce???? We should also > explore > > grant opportunities. > > > > > > If there's real interest of having a formal way of train and certificate > > students, I think all I mentioned before doesn't need to be funded. I > think > > is the investment we have to do to be endorsed by the foundation to train > > people. I would love to have an "openEHR foundation logo" on the openEHR > > course in spanish I've designed more than 4 years ago as an "openEHR > > foundation approved" course, and give certificates formally approved by > > openEHR foundation. I'm sure that can bring us to the next level in > openEHR > > education. And I'm sure my course can be complemented by other courses, > > english based also! And I would love to recommend other "endorser by > > openEHR foundation" courses to my students, so they can improve their > > skills. > > > > > > The main problem I see right now is how we engage openEHR boards to take > > action and decide on this things. Of course, presenting the proposal to > > create the programme committee will be the first step! > > > > > > All the best, > > > > Pablo. > > > > > > > > Evelyn > > > > > > > > [image: EHE logo tree] > > > > > > > > Prof Evelyn J.S.Hovenga, > > > > CEO, Director & Trainer > > > > *eHealth Education Pty Ltd, RTO 32279* > > (trading as RSC Training and eHE Training) > > > > : PO Box 9783, Frenchville Qld 4701 > > > > * e.hovenga at ehe.edu.au > > ? 0408309839 ' 1300 285 512 > > 8 www.ehe.edu.au & www.ehetraining.edu.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* openEHR-clinical [mailto: > > openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *pablo pazos > > *Sent:* Thursday, 20 February 2014 1:14 PM > > *To:* openEHR Clinical > > *Subject:* RE: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > > > > > > > > Hi Evelyn, > > > > We had a long discussion a while ago (Jan 2012), we even created a wiki > > page, but we didn't get further, IMO because we don't have a clear view > of > > the certification mechanisms from the foundation. > > > > I'd love to see and participate in an openEHR SIG, but some questions > > arises: > > > > Who will coordinate that? How do we engage people to participate? Who > will > > validate the decisions of the SIG and make them formal? e.g. endorsed by > > openEHR foundation, who can participate? who has the right to say who has > > the knowledge and capability to be part of the SIG? I can continue :) > but I > > think I mentioned these a lot of times and got no clear answer, so it > seems > > I don't ask the right questions, or maybe this is not the place to ask > > those question, or (I'm afraid of this last option) the foundation > > representatives doesn't know the answers. > > > > As an example, right now there are a lot of groups formally created for > > each programme, but we still don't know what can we decide and how those > > decisions will be endorsed by the foundation. Also participation is > erratic > > because our little free time available. > > > > This is the exchange we had a while ago: > > > > > http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/2012-January/006527.html > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > > http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home> > > ------------------------------ > > > > From: ehovenga at gmail.com > > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > Subject: RE: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:43:27 +1000 > > > > Clearly there are many openEHR training providers. May I suggest that > > the openEHR foundation consider setting the standards that graduates of > > such training programs need to be able to comply with? This includes > > stating what competencies are needed for the various job roles but also > how > > to certify trainers themselves to ensure quality and consistency. The > > openEHR Foundation could consider providing an endorsement mechanism for > > training organisations. An openEHR SIG could develop these standards. > > > > > > > > Individual countries have their own system of regulating > > training/education quality based on educational standards. For example > we > > are a registered training organisation (RTO) in Australia able to > develop a > > curriculum that may be accredited by our national regulator who then > > approves us to issue an agreed nationally recognised qualification that > > fits with the Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF). All Universities > > and other training providers need to comply with that. We also have > > specific requirements on how to write a competency standard - see > > > http://www.nssc.natese.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/71303/TxtCompStandardSection.pdf > > > > > > > > We have experience working with ITHSDO and HL7 regarding their > > certification programs. I also undertake accreditation of University > > ICT/SE programs for the Australian Computer Society and manage our RTO. > > We're happy to participate. > > > > > > > > Regards, Evelyn > > > > > > > > [image: EHE logo tree] > > > > > > > > Prof Evelyn J.S.Hovenga, > > > > CEO, Director & Trainer > > > > *eHealth Education Pty Ltd, RTO 32279* > > (trading as RSC Training and eHE Training) > > > > : PO Box 9783, Frenchville Qld 4701 > > > > * e.hovenga at ehe.edu.au > > ? 0408309839 ' 1300 285 512 > > 8 www.ehe.edu.au & www.ehetraining.edu.au > > > > > > > > *From:* openEHR-clinical [ > > mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org< > openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org>] > > *On Behalf Of *Jussara > > *Sent:* Saturday, 15 February 2014 6:05 AM > > *To:* For openEHR clinical discussions > > *Cc:* openEHR Clinical > > *Subject:* Re: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > > > > > > > > We also provide training in openEHR with HL7 Brazil. This year we will > > provide the first Online course. We give also in company training. > > > > The Brazilian Health informatics association has introduced a HIT > > professional certificate two years ago- ProTICS, where knowledge of > > clinical models Is one of the desired skills to a health informaticiN, > > but is generic. Openehr Brasil is trying to Building a certificate > project, > > but we want that it could be internationally acknowledged, and the only > > way is pushing the foundation to tackle this issue. My suggestion is to > > create a SiG to organize that. I will propose this on next ?nterim board > > meeting. > > > > Volunteers? > > > > Jussara > > > > > > > > Enviado via iPad > > > > > > Em Feb 14, 2014, ?s 4:18 PM, pablo pazos <pazospablo at hotmail.com> > > escreveu: > > > > Hi Alvin, > > > > > > > > We (CaboLabs.com) do openEHR training in spanish with ACHISA.org (Chilean > > Association of Healthcare Informatics. ACHISA gives a certificate from > the > > association, but right now there is no formal certificate from openEHR > > itself. The course is online, and the fourth edition will start on April > > 2014. We have a waiting list for the course: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDlLUmpMX0pzaHJzZ21FMGVLN1dMUWc6MQ#gid=0 > > > > > > > > More info: > > > http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/2012/01/conclusiones-del-curso-de-openehen.html > < > http://informatica-medica.blogspot.com/2012/01/conclusiones-del-curso-de-openehr-en.html > > > > > > > > > > As Ian said, Ocean gives training and certificates also, those instances > > are english-based. There are some videos of their training instances on > > YouTube. I totally recommend you to take a look at that. > > > > > > > > Have a nice weekend! > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Eng. Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez > > http://cabolabs.com <http://cabolabs.com/es/home> > > > > > From: ian.mcnicoll at gmail.com > > > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:59:59 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1 > > > To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > > > > > Hi Alvin, > > > > > > There have been some discussions abut formal openEHR training > > > accreditation but nothing concrete has emerged. The individual > > > companies like Ocean and Cabolabs that offer training can offer > > > certificates of attendance/training. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > On 13 February 2014 09:24, Alvin Marcelo <alvin.marcelo at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Just Wanted to know if there's is a certification training/program > for > > > > openehr? > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2014 5:18 PM, <openehr-clinical-request at lists.openehr.org > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Send openEHR-clinical mailing list submissions to > > > >> openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > >> openehr-clinical-request at lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > > > >> openehr-clinical-owner at lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > >> than "Re: Contents of openEHR-clinical digest..." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Today's Topics: > > > >> > > > >> 1. Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE (Koray Atalag) > > > >> 2. Re: Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE (Diego Bosc?) > > > >> 3. Re: Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE (Diego Bosc?) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > >> Message: 1 > > > >> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 03:30:48 +0000 > > > >> From: Koray Atalag <k.atalag at nihi.auckland.ac.nz> > > > >> To: For openEHR clinical discussions <openehr-clinical at openehr.org> > > > >> Subject: Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> > > > >> < > > B1CE708E5C614F4BB990E32CC5F03AD4706B4B4C at uxcn10-tdc01.UoA.auckland.ac.nz > > > > > >> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >> > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> Any idea how to choose mmol/mol for HbA1c result using DV_QUANTITY > in > > > >> Archetype Editor? > > > >> It used to be a proportion (%) but now the international agreement > is > > to > > > >> use this unit which does not come as an option. Wonder if I exists > in > > UCUM? > > > >> This is such a commonly used Lab item - I'm sure someone else must > > have > > > >> hit the issue. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> > > > >> -koray > > > >> > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> < > > > http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20140213/321750a1/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 2 > > > >> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:16:39 +0100 > > > >> From: Diego Bosc? <yampeku at gmail.com> > > > >> To: For openEHR clinical discussions > > > >> <openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > > > >> Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions <openehr-clinical at openehr.org> > > > >> Subject: Re: Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> > > > >> <CAFx8UwBTEWAZuy=-wdu1JbpSuP2bOMejH6YuBC40z6vX6=b6Gg at mail.gmail.com > > > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >> > > > >> Hi Koray, > > > >> > > > >> UCUM is extensible, you can define new units as long as you follow > its > > > >> syntax. In this case you are lucky, as mmol/mol (MilliMolesPerMole) > is > > > >> already used as UCUM unit. You can check it here: > > > >> http://www.hl7.de/download/documents/ucum/ucumdata.html > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I think I also added all these units as valid UCUM units on LinkEHR > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [image: Im?genes integradas 1] > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Which is represented in ADL as: > > > >> > > > >> C_DV_QUANTITY < > > > >> property = > > > >> <[openehr::507]> > > > >> list = < > > > >> ["1"] = < > > > >> units = > > > >> <"mmol/mol"> > > > >> magnitude = > > > >> <|0.0..200.0|> > > > >> precision = <|0|> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hope this helps :) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 2014-02-13 4:30 GMT+01:00 Koray Atalag < > k.atalag at nihi.auckland.ac.nz > > >: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Any idea how to choose mmol/mol for HbA1c result using DV_QUANTITY > > in > > > >> > Archetype Editor? > > > >> > > > > >> > It used to be a proportion (%) but now the international agreement > > is to > > > >> > use this unit which does not come as an option. Wonder if I exists > > in > > > >> > UCUM? > > > >> > > > > >> > This is such a commonly used Lab item - I'm sure someone else must > > have > > > >> > hit the issue. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -koray > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > openEHR-clinical mailing list > > > >> > openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > > >> > > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- > > > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> < > > > http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20140213/e3a87d80/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 3 > > > >> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:16:39 +0100 > > > >> From: Diego Bosc? <yampeku at gmail.com> > > > >> To: For openEHR clinical discussions > > > >> <openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org> > > > >> Cc: For openEHR clinical discussions <openehr-clinical at openehr.org> > > > >> Subject: Re: Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> > > > >> <CAFx8UwBTEWAZuy=-wdu1JbpSuP2bOMejH6YuBC40z6vX6=b6Gg at mail.gmail.com > > > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >> > > > >> Hi Koray, > > > >> > > > >> UCUM is extensible, you can define new units as long as you follow > its > > > >> syntax. In this case you are lucky, as mmol/mol (MilliMolesPerMole) > is > > > >> already used as UCUM unit. You can check it here: > > > >> http://www.hl7.de/download/documents/ucum/ucumdata.html > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I think I also added all these units as valid UCUM units on LinkEHR > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [image: Im?genes integradas 1] > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Which is represented in ADL as: > > > >> > > > >> C_DV_QUANTITY < > > > >> property = > > > >> <[openehr::507]> > > > >> list = < > > > >> ["1"] = < > > > >> units = > > > >> <"mmol/mol"> > > > >> magnitude = > > > >> <|0.0..200.0|> > > > >> precision = <|0|> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hope this helps :) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 2014-02-13 4:30 GMT+01:00 Koray Atalag < > k.atalag at nihi.auckland.ac.nz > > >: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Any idea how to choose mmol/mol for HbA1c result using DV_QUANTITY > > in > > > >> > Archetype Editor? > > > >> > > > > >> > It used to be a proportion (%) but now the international agreement > > is to > > > >> > use this unit which does not come as an option. 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