We could use other_details. However, the downside is that none of the 
tags are standardised when you do that, so you always run the risk of 
different tools / users creating variant structures they think will 
match but don't (even just not agreeing on international v US English 
for example). We'll always have to use other_details for things we don't 
know yet anyway, but where we think we know the logical 'tags', it may 
make sense to add them to the model as such.

- thomas

On 20/11/2014 21:16, Heath Frankel wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I am not sure why we can't use other-details for all of these. It 
> doesn't seem critical for processing archetypes, it is only for reference.
>
> Regards
>
> Heath
>
> On 21 Nov 2014, at 1:21 am, "Thomas Beale" 
> <thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com 
> <mailto:thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a test archetype here 
>> <https://github.com/openEHR/adl-archetypes/blob/master/ADL15-reference/features/meta_data/openehr-test_pkg-WHOLE.full_meta_data.v0.0.1.adls>that
>>  
>> shows an example of proposed new meta-data items.
>>
>> Things to notice:
>>
>>   * 'rm_release=1.0.2' in the top line. Rm_release is now a mandatory
>>     item in ADL 2 (but easy to synthesise in converters)
>>   * 'copyright' is now at the outer level, before it was in the
>>     translatable part, i.e. with 'keywords' etc - now there is only
>>     one copyright statement for an archetype
>>   * 'licence' is a new item
>>   * there are items for 'original_xxx' and 'custodian_xxx' intended
>>     to document the original organisation that created something, and
>>     the current custodian of that thing.
>>   * proposed new blocks for 'ip_acknowledgements' and
>>     'conversion_details'
>>
>> A question I have is: are the items for original publisher / 
>> namespace and custodian organisation enough?
>>
>> Currently they are as follows:
>>
>>     original_namespace = <"org.archetypes-r-us">
>>     original_publisher = <"Archetypes R Us">
>>     custodian_namespace = <"org.openehr">
>>     custodian_organisation = <"openEHR Foundation">
>>
>> However, if we thing we need any more items for these two, we are 
>> stuck with this model - the only place we could put new items would 
>> be in the main 'other_details' block. Should we instead do the following:
>>
>>     original_publisher = <
>>         organisation = <"Archetypes R Us">
>>         namespace = <"org.archetypes-r-us">
>>         other_details = <
>>             ["key"] = <"value">
>>             ["key"] = <"value">
>>             ...
>>         >
>>     >
>>     custodian = <
>>         organisation = <"openEHR Foundation">
>>         namespace = <"org.openehr">
>>         other_details = <
>>             ["key"] = <"value">
>>             ["key"] = <"value">
>>             ...
>>         >
>>     >
>>
>>
>> This is only slightly more complex, but much more flexible. As we are 
>> finalising the ADL/AOM 2 specifications, this is one of the last 
>> issues, so now is a good time to decide if we need to change this.
>>
>> It is worth noting that we have done the ip_acknowledgements and 
>> conversion_details (both imminently needed by CIMI) differently:
>>
>>         ip_acknowledgements = <
>>             ["loinc"] = <"This content from LOINC? is copyright ? 
>> 1995 Regenstrief Institute, Inc. and the LOINC Committee, and 
>> available at no cost under the license at http://loinc.org/terms-of-use";>
>>             ["snomedct"] = <"xyz">
>>         >
>>         conversion_details = <
>>             ["source_model"] = <"CEM xyz 
>> <http://location.in.clinicalelementmodels.com>">
>>             ["tool"] = <"cem2adl v6.3.0">
>>             ["time"] = <"2014-11-03T09:05:00">
>>         >
>>
>> This is because in the first case, the structure is logically a keyed 
>> list of values, where we never know the keys, and in the 
>> 'conversion_details' case, because we are not currently sure of the 
>> keys (and maybe we'll never have standard keys for that).
>>
>> - thomas
>>
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