It certainly expects UID to be unique - so be careful if cloning a template
that the uid is updated.

Ian
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 06:20, Dileep V S <dil...@healthelife.in> wrote:

> Thanks Thomas/Ian,
>
> I will review the documents that Thomas has mentioned and comeback if
> there are any other questions.
>
> Meanwhile, from the template indexing errors that I got from Ethercis, I
> feel that Ethercis uses concept in some internal constructs. It seems to
> expect UID & concept to be unique.
>
> regards
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> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:46 PM Ian McNicoll <i...@freshehr.com> wrote:
>
>> Thomas is correct.
>>
>> Right now the template ID is generally the source of truth from a
>> technical pov but some systems also expect and use the uid. I don't think
>> 'concept' is actually used practically speaking.
>>
>> Ian
>>
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>>
>>
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>> Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org
>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 14:31, Thomas Beale <thomas.be...@openehr.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dileep,
>>>
>>> the identification section of the AOM2 spec
>>> <https://specifications.openehr.org/releases/AM/latest/AOM2.html#_archetype_identification>
>>> gives a reasonable explanation. In ADL2/AOM2, a template is just an
>>> archetype, not something different, so all the archetype rules apply. More
>>> on ADL2 templates here
>>> <https://specifications.openehr.org/releases/AM/latest/AOM2.html#_templates>.
>>> ALl of the rules for ADL2/AOM2 should be the same for .oet / ADL 1.4 based
>>> templates (e.g. when is a new UID required etc).
>>>
>>> hope this helps.
>>> - thomas
>>> On 18/06/2019 21:05, Dileep V S wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please see a snippet from an OPT that we have. I see that there are 3
>>> different pieces of identification - UID, template_id & concept.
>>> Template_id seems to have been picked up automatically from the template
>>> file name and UID automatically generated by the template designer.
>>>
>>> The concept is something that the person creating the template can
>>> optionally give and can be different from the template_id.
>>>
>>> <uid>
>>>     <value>0c8e4361-ed54-4555-b2d9-9680c1f2bb46</value>
>>>   </uid>
>>>   <template_id>
>>>     <value>EHRN Medication summary.v0</value>
>>>   </template_id>
>>>   <concept>EHRN Medication summary.v0</concept>
>>>
>>> What are the intended purpose of each of these? Can we have two
>>> templates with different sets of these data without creating a conflict?
>>> For example can I have two versions of the same template with different
>>> UIDs and template_id, but same concept? How about two with different UIDs
>>> and same template_id or two with same UID and different template_ids.
>>>
>>> What situations can cause a conflict on the server?
>>>
>>> regards
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