Hi Paul,

things like Problem lists are 'interesting', and I consider them a second order informational artefact. The short answer on how to do them is probably something like this:

 * creating an artefact to represent a specific problem such as chest
   pain will mostly be done at execution time, by working clinicians
   deciding what things are 'related to' the given problem;
     o such choices are likely to be somewhat subjective, i.e. no
       guarantee that two clinicians would make the same choices;
 * technically a problem in the POMR sense could be represented as a
   dedicated Composition containing LINKs or DV_EHR_URI references to
   the bits and pieces of interest elsewhere in the EHR;
 * tag(s) could be added a priori to EHR content (e.g. lab results,
   physical exams, ECGs, etc) before it is committed, identifying it as
   part of some particular problem(s), or similarly, Compositions could
   be classified under Folders representing problems, just as they
   already are under Folders representing episodes - but of course this
   relies on health workers knowing what problems are 'defined' in the
   EHR, and whether the new content should be added.
     o Realistically, most linking of content to a problem is likely to
       be a post hoc process.

As yet, the machinery to do this mostly exists, but there is little in the way of standardised patterns or usage of it to achieve any kind of standardised 'problem' document (NB: not the same as 'problem list' - which is one level up, and is a managed list of issues considered to be problems, usually inclding current Dxs such as diabetes etc).

To go further, e.g. to automate any of this would be a question of creating rule-sets in which each rule detects a certain kind of content being committed (using an AQL query or AQL path matcher or ADL match expression), and adds a link to that content from the dedicated Composition. Such rules would be evaluated on data commits to the EHR inside a rule engine.

I suspect the best we can do at the moment is to standardise use of the above mechanisms to create problem descriptions in a generic sense. Experimentation with rules over time should eventually generate some reliable patterns.

- thomas

On 26/06/2019 10:41, Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical wrote:

Hi Paul!

Yes, this is part of the openEHR specification LINK class (https://specifications.openehr.org/releases/RM/latest/docs/common.html#_link_class), and it needs to be handled by the application. I know DIPS has started using this in some functional areas like their hospital care plan module, but I don’t remember the details. Maybe someone from DIPS can elaborate.

Mvh.

*Silje*

*From:* openEHR-clinical <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Paul Miller
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*Subject:* Problem orientation in OpenEHR

How would we do this?

There is a method of implementation in problem oriented records whereby a header, generally the ‘problem’, is linked to other record entries or elements that are to do with that problem.

So ‘chest pain’ as a problem may be linked to blood tests, clinical notes, ECG, CXR and medications that were ordered or reported as part of the work up of that condition.

In interfaces this allows for views of the record showing the Problem and all linked events/entries/data. It’s essentially what Larry Weed used to talk about.

Of course things may relate to more than one Problem, Problems may link to each other, Problem headers and content will change over time. There is usually a fair amount of manual curation, which may be very contextual, but theoretical a lot of it could be automated.

By modelling this linkage in data it would become computable, and potentially make some clinicians very happy in their work!

Is this something that is part of openEHR specification or that can be modelled in archetypes? Or is it down to the application to manage this?

Thanks for any help.  As always slightly anxious that am missing something completely obvious, so apologies if so!!

Paul

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