Thanks Sam,

That was helpful but would you agree that is does not make much sense to use
a reference range for blood pressure in the same manner as you would for a
lab test. I have suggested that if Pablo is trying to set trigger conditions
e;g a series of BPs over a particular level, then this properly belongs in
the guideline/pathway space, rather than as ref ranges?

Ian

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2009/10/13 Sam Heard <sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com>

>  Hi Pablo
>
>
>
> The issue is that you do not see the reference model attributes in the
> archetype editor. A Quantity data type has a normal range and other
> reference ranges built in.
>
> We do not set the reference ranges in archetypes as these vary and
> archetypes are the absolute statement about things (what could possibly be
> true ever, anywhere).
>
>
>
> So it is in the form or data that you will get access to the reference
> range. You could set it in a template (not possible in our tools as yet).
> Generally the reference ranges come with the results from the lab or a
> dynamic depending on gender, age etc.
>
>
>
> I hope this is helpful ? have a look at the data type specs for
> clarification. The UML is at:
>
>
> http://www.openehr.org/uml/release-1.0.1/Browsable/_9_0_76d0249_1109599337877_94556_1510Report.html
>
>
>
> You will see an optional normal_range and 0..* other reference ranges as
> part of a root abstract class DV_ORDERED
>
>
>
> Cheers, Sam
>
>
>
> *From:* openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:
> openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *pablo pazos
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 October 2009 8:02 AM
> *To:* openehr-clinical at openehr.org; openehr-technical at openehr.org
> *Subject:* Modeling reference ranges
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm playing around with archetypes trying to model an observation and its
> reference ranges,
> I mean something like "blood pressure" and some range to define what is
> "hypertension", but
> I can't found an archetype that defines a reference range for an
> observation.
>
> Any one has experience in modeling something like this?
> An archetype is the correct place to define a reference range for an
> observation value?
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Thak you!
>
> Cheers,
> Pablo Pazos Gutierrez
>
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