Thanks Laura,

That is very helpful clarification. It is unfortunate that much of the
interesting work being done in the English NHS is 'hidden away' either
with the TRUD mechanism or in the case of the Clinical Data Standards
work, behind the N3 firewall. I know steps are being taken to address
these issues but it does present a significant barrier for those
outside the NHS.

Regards,

Ian

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On 3 June 2011 10:28, Sato Laura (NHS CONNECTING FOR HEALTH)
<laura.sato at nhs.net> wrote:
> Dear Eunice,
>
>
>
> For info, although NHS Data Standards & Products has worked with openEHR
> archetypes in the past, we are currently working on developing care record
> content models that use the EN/ISO 13606 reference model and ISO 21090 data
> types (both with a relationship to, but not exactly the same as, openEHR?s
> technical infrastructure), alongside a modelling approach that seeks to make
> as much use as possible of the SNOMED CT clinical concept hierarchy, as well
> as re-usable ELEMENT models and terminology constraints.? Do please feel
> free to get in touch with me, if you?d like more information about current
> NHS ?central? activities in this area.
>
>
>
> We also continue communications with Thomas and Ian (and others) to maintain
> links with the openEHR community, and hopefully will be able to provide a
> clearer picture of how NHS content and openEHR archetypes fit together in
> the coming months.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laura
>
>
>
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> Laura Sato
>
> Head, Logical Record Architecture
>
>
>
> Department of Health Informatics Directorate
>
> Technology Office, NHS Connecting for Health
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> email: laura.sato at nhs.net
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> mobile: (44) (0)7733 324 338
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> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org
> [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Eunice Ab
> Sent: 19 May 2011 18:22
> To: For openEHR technical discussions
> Subject: Re: openEHR Archetypes Development
>
>
>
> Dear Ian
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for your reply.
>
>
>
> I was thinking?whether there was a centrally funded?team dedicated to
> developing archetypes for data standard developers. I?was wondering
> whether?if one was involved in a development work for clinical systems and
> notice that new archetypes are required,?whether?one could?request for the
> archetype development free.
>
>
>
> I can see this is not the way things work....
>
>
>
> Thanks so much.
>
>
>
> Eunice
>
> On 19 May 2011 17:22, Ian McNicoll <Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Eunice,
>
>
>
> There are a variety of ways in which archetype development can be supported.
> Many of the archetypes currently on CKM have their origins in work supported
> and funded by the English NHS. There are other people and places doing
> development, particularly NEHTA in Australia -
> see?http://dcm.nehta.org.au/ckm/#?who I understand are funding both
> editorial and clinical review time.
>
>
>
> As you will see from my other reply, this is an emerging space and it is
> difficult to answer your question directly without knowing more about what
> you are trying to do in the NHS context. By all means email me directly if
> you want to discuss privately. I am based in the UK and reasonably familiar
> with the various UK standards development efforts (for better or worse!!).
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
>
> ?? ? ? ? +44 (0)2032 392 970
> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> skype ianmcnicoll
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
>
> Clinical Modelling Consultant,?Ocean Informatics, UK
> openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge
> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> BCS Primary Health Care ?www.phcsg.org
>
> On 19 May 2011 16:26, Eunice Ab <euniceab at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
>
>
> Wondering if you could help.
>
>
>
> I wanted to confirm whether one can request for archetype development for
> free if one does not currently exist.
>
>
>
> Are there any costs associated with this?
>
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>
> Eunice
>
>
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