@Thomas thanks for the pointer.

We were talking with Diego about the need of storing the nodeId in the IM for 
datatypes to allow querying over specific DV alternatives of an ELEMENT.value, 
because for path-based queries having nodeId for DV is easier to implement than 
trying to derive the DV from it's attributes in the path.

I think this goes in the lines of what Pieter commented on his email.

@All is there any change request to the IM for adding a nodeId field for 
DATAVALUE, or maybe make it extend LOCATABLE?
Is there any constraint for making DATAVALUE extend LOCATABLE?

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Eng. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez
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From: openEHR-technical <openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org> on behalf 
of Pieter Bos <pieter....@nedap.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 7:22:48 AM
To: openeh technical; openehr clinical
Subject: Re: Question about paths to C_SINGLE_ATTRIBUTE alternatives

I fully agree that they should be mandatory. Things like this make writing 
software based on OpenEHR more complex than it could be.

I also never understood that the DV_-types do not have an archetype node id in 
the reference model. This adds complexity, because the paths in an archetype do 
not always match the paths in a reference model object. Sometimes you just need 
paths based on an archetype that need to work in reference model objects. For 
example when displaying information, rendering forms, evaluating rules or score 
calculations, or rendering a UI to edit stored reference model objects. Of 
course, you can write something that converts these paths from the AOM to the 
RM, but I don’t see why that should be necessary.

Perhaps someone can explain the reasoning behind these choices?

Regards,

Pieter Bos
Nedap Healthcare


From: openEHR-technical <openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org> on behalf 
of pablo pazos <pazospa...@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: openeh technical <openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org>
Date: Monday 31 October 2016 at 17:08
To: openehr clinical <openehr-clini...@lists.openehr.org>, openeh technical 
<openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org>
Subject: Question about paths to C_SINGLE_ATTRIBUTE alternatives


Hi,



I was chatting with Diego, about the need of nodeIds for ELEMENT.value and I 
detected some archetypes with alternatives but no nodeIds, I guess, created 
with the Archetype Editor.



Examples from openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.timing_daily.v0



...
            ELEMENT[at0004] occurrences matches {0..*} matches {    -- Specific 
time
                value matches {
                    DV_TIME matches {*}
                    DV_INTERVAL<DV_TIME> matches {
                        upper matches {
                            DV_TIME matches {*}
                        }
                        lower matches {
                            DV_TIME matches {*}
                        }
                    }
                }
            }
            ELEMENT[at0026] occurrences matches {0..*} matches {    -- Named 
time event
                value matches {
                    DV_TEXT matches {*}
                    DV_CODED_TEXT matches {
                        defining_code matches {
                            [local::
                            at0031,     -- immediately (stat)
                            at0032,     -- in the morning
                            at0033,     -- at night
                            at0034]    -- in the morning and at night
                        }
                    }
                }
            }

...





How can software create paths to the specific ELEMENT.value constraint if the 
constraints don't have a nodeId?





This remembers me of an old discussion about if the nodeIds should or not be 
mandatory. Opinions?




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Eng. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez
http://cabolabs.com<http://cabolabs.com/es/home>
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