On Wed, 2023-12-20 at 22:07 +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> FWIW, I think that the right way out is to convert all recipes to use
> = for default PACKAGECONFIG sets., and drop the confusing ?=/??=
> stuff. What we should offer is a sane default, and an easy, obvious
> way to add and subtract from it. Is there a real need to completely
> reset the overall value?
> 
> If you disagree, please speak up now.

This is definitely not a time/place for "if nobody speaks we can do
it".

I know I for one am burnt out and struggling and I don't have the time
to give this the thought it needs. Many people are not going to be
paying attention due to the holiday season.

I appreciate Joshua has run into this, like several of us have before,
been horrified and is trying to find a way to improve things. I've
given this a lot of thought in the past and posted various things about
ideas. I've never pushed forward with them as they either weren't right
or didn't have the level of community buy in needed.

I've very reluctant to either make hard/fast "rules" about variable X
needs to use operator Y, or make wholesale changes from one format to
another without careful thought and a plan.

I've been traditionally very reluctant to try and move forward with
changing this without a way to improve things with the other problem
variables like IMAGE_INSTALL and DISTRO_FEATURES too.

It is really tempting to say "?=" is better or "=" is better and for
some scenarios they are, some they aren't. The reality is that what we
have today is what everyone's distros/configs work with and if we want
to change from what people have working, we need a good plan.

Cheers,

Richard




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