Hi, Earlier this week I got back from SCaLE17x during which I taught an E-ALE class on Buildroot, was a TA for the other E-ALE classes, organized and ran the first ever (hopefully of more to come) OE Summit, and gave a general intro talk on OE. I wasn't planning on giving an OE talk at SCaLE, but the person who was supposed to talk wasn't able to make it. I had travelled to SCaLE with a backup talk prepared as a "plan B", and it was good that I did.
I'm quite happy with how the inaugural OpenEmbedded Summit went. Everything went off without a hitch, and there was a lot of interaction and feedback between the speakers and the audience. We had 4 speakers: myself (Togan Labs): Using OE Drew Moseley (mender.io): Mechanisms for Enabling and Configuring WiFi in OE Alistair Francis (Western Digital): RISC-V and OE Jon Mason (ARM): Kernel Development Workflows Using OE Counting attendance is a bit tricky because people sometimes wander in and out. Do we count someone who wanders in partway through but leaves before the end? My talk was the least attended. I forgot to count the audience members (since I was giving the talk), but I did notice that a couple people wandered in during the talk. Behan counted 12; like I said, I didn't think to get a specific number myself. In any case, my talk wasn't in the programme, since I was filling in for someone who didn't make it to the conference. Drew's and Jon's talks had roughly 20 audience members each, and Alistair's talk was about 30. It's too bad the OE Summit was pitted against SCaLE's "Embedded Track". I think we ended up "competing" for audience members between the two of us. The OE Summit was put in a rather large room. Between teaching and helping out with E-ALE and running the OE Summit, I didn't attend a single talk at the conference nor spend time in any other part of the conference except for these two rooms (which were beside each other). I have been told anecdotally, however, that the attendance numbers we saw for the OE Summit were in-line with the numbers of attendees for several of the other talks, but I can't comment personally. As we were still setting up for my OE talk, the very first talk of the OE Summit, one of the audience members put up his hand and asked what the difference is between "Yocto" and "OE". We weren't specifically prepared to comment off-the-cuff about the relationship between the two projects; it's not as if we had a prepared statement to read on the topic. We tried to fumble through a satisfactory answer while remaining as neutral as possible on the topic. But it sure would be great if the two projects could get together and put out an official statement on the matter to which we could point all such curious people. Interestingly enough, this person was sure that The Yocto Project pre-dated OE, which we had to correct. Then he assumed these were two projects that had simply forked from each other at some point in the past. It was probably actually more confusing to him that OE and YP are two separate projects, but with almost all the same developers, working on almost all the same code. In any case, The Yocto Project's Community Manager was on-hand, thankfully, and I don't think he had any objections to any of the things we said in answering this question. My talk was a general introduction talk about OE, but all the other talks assumed the audience knew something about OE. This turned out to not be the case. Pretty much all the speakers had to field questions along the lines of "so what is OE anyway?". Sadly, in many cases, saying "it's like Buildroot" is often what would help the person asking the question the most. I think it's noteworthy that more people seem to know what Buildroot is, but not OE/YP. Although I realize this is just one conference, and a very small sample set, so it wouldn't be fair to generalize from these numbers. But it is true that these are the sorts of questions we were frequently asked, so it's noteworthy in that respect. Oddly enough, when I was finished the slides portion of the Buildroot class, the very first statement a student made was to complain about how terribly difficult Yocto is to learn and use. Why this came up in a class about Buildroot is confusing to me too, maybe he looked me up online and found my affiliation with OE? I don't know. I was careful to not mention the words "OE" or "Yocto" at all in my Buildroot talk. In any case, in his opinion, using Yocto requires a masters degree. Obviously he's exaggerating for effect. I'd like to personally thank the speakers who agreed to give a talk at a conference that didn't exist prior to last weekend, who worked hard on their talks, and who put together some very interesting presentations. I think we all walked away having learned a bit more about OE. I'd like to thank Behan and Tom King who helped organize. Behan who setup his recording equipment to record the talks (just in case there's an issue with SCaLE's recordings). SCaLE who hosted the mini-conference and helped with advertising (i.e. putting up a page and re-tweeting). I'd like to thank the OE Board of Directors who gave me permission to create and run a mini-conference on their behalf. Finally, but not lastly, I'd like to thank everyone who attended! Thank you, and best regards, Trevor -- _______________________________________________ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core