Title: Eric CAUDAL
Hi Thosten,
I put back the community on the loop.
I understand your method which is clearly correct in some cases but directly avoid to use multi-company for the implementation. This is an option but does not answer all implementation cases.

For business reasons, in China/HK/Macau, we have many customers that use an operating company in China and accounting company in HK for trading. Usually the HK company staff is light and companies share most of the information (products, users, customers etc.). It is not possible to think about duplicating them when OpenERP is supposed to do the trick ("OpenERP is multi-company" isn't it?).

We are thinking of developing ICOPS (inter-company process) modules similar to sale_intercompany but more generic and focussing on SO/PO automatic creation, invoicing and stock moves automatic matching.
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On 03/23/2013 08:55 PM, Thorsten Vocks wrote:
Hi Eric,

this slides of OpenERP consultant Francois Pietquin explains more about coverage of standard multi-company. 
OpenERP covers the basics for it, nothing more and nothing less:



I usually ask very intense what customers wants to do with a "multi-company" setup. 
Do they only want to share some data like product catalogue, customers / suppliers in one database, 
consilidation of balance sheet and P+L, this simple multi company feature can be enough. 

For the purpose of stock valuation, intercompany accounting transaction there is indeed more to think about,
as your example shows. I have proposed in two multi-company projects to use two separate databases for their 
specific multi company scenario. 

Exchange between 2 databases product catalogues, addresses then have to be done in a different way 
(pentaho kettle , or base_synchro module). For intercompany exchange of orders, deliveries and invoices i proposed to 
use the new EDI features (introduced with 6.1). It means cross-over interchange of orders, 
invoices and so on. Each company is represented by their own unique email adress ([email protected], [email protected], ....) and this hub systems controls intercompany exchange of all relevant business
documents.To my opinion stock valuation, cost price calculation is easier in different databases. To be forced to use 
the email hub ensures a bit more to be compliant with tax rules ("nearlly physical" exchange of invoices, orders) and it needs
manual intervention (like opening the envelope with invoice inside you have to open the email ).

Another benefit of such separated databases is reduction of errors. Users are not good protected against that in one database, especially the employees in accounting having to do the intercompany account moves. The configuration of user rights is more straight forward and more clearly separated in two (or more) seprate databases.  Consolidation of different balances shouldn't be a big deal outside of OpenERP (for instance OLAP).
   
But in general Nhomar is totally right. For sure I forgot to mention all the drawbacks (for instance redundant users have to login / logout in several databases) and it usually means some double work. My decision to propose such "workaround" solutions was either driven by a lack of functionality or my fear against  such difficult open heart surgeries. Last not least decision should 
depend of accountants qualification in the company itself. OpenERP accounting is currently not entirely foolproof even in 
a one company scenario;-)

I also assume some extra-addons, like the following one existing some time ago could be more advanced, more automated solution: http://doc.openerp.com/v6.0/technical_guide/sale_intercompany_auto.html   I also remember Syleam have developed some
modules.



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2013/3/23 Eric Caudal <[email protected]>
Hi,
Currently in product form, Cost price, sales price, stock valuation method and cost price calculation method are not multi-company property fields when clearly they should be (at least as far as I understand multi-company).

Is there any reason for that or anything that I am overlooking?


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