2008/5/21 Femke Snelting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thomas Phinney, product Manager Fonts @ Adobe left this comment on our > blogpost on the possible re-licensing of Utopia: > >> I'm open to the possibility of using OFL on the four basic faces >> of Utopia, as long as The Lawyers are okay with it. >> http://ospublish.constantvzw.org/?p=504
Wow! That's great news! :-) > For typographers & designers it would be really exciting if Utopia (and > others!) would be available as source The font source must be some ancient Fontographer files... > but to be able to make a > derivative work, it's license needs to allow more than just the freedom > to add glyphs. That's not what I understood by Karl's message and the license. The license says, "Adobe grants [the public] a license ... to use, reproduce, display and distribute the Software for any purpose and without fee provided that the following copyright notice appears in all whole and partial copies of the Software ... <<Copyright 1989, 1991 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved.>> Adobe also grants [the public] a license to modify the Software for any purpose and redistribute such modifications ... provided that the modified Software shall not use the font name(s) or trademark(s), in whole or in part" Karl is saying that you can add new original parts to Utopia and use whatever license you like for those parts - like the OFL - but you have to include the normal two bits of copyright stuff from Adobe - the copyright notice and the copyright license - when you redistribute the new combined work. > We are not as informed about legal and technical consequenses as you all > are :-) and it looks like the trouble will be in the 'as long as the > lawyers are ok with it'. So... we wondered whether one of you want to > take this on? I can if you don't want to, but I think it would be fine for you to do it :-) > Or are you already in contact with these people? I've met him a few times and he's a wonderfully friendly and nice guy :-) You might also want to privately ask Victor Gaultney if he'd like to be involved in any discussions with Adobe, as the primary author of the SIL OFL and someone who also knows Tom already. > Or can you help us with what we exactly should ask for? I suggest you just email Tom privately, as he suggests, and ask what you can do to help get Utopia republished with SIL OFL, and if there's any chance the Fontographer sources could be OFL'd too. I'm sure everyone here is familiar with Jono Bacon, Canonical's "Community Manager." Tom is kind of the Adobe equivalent, for the typography community - he attends a lot of typography conferences on company time, presenting a range of topics from Adobe corporate stuff to really exciting typographic history tales. He was in the news a while back for being an expert witness in a forgery case - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_authenticity_issues#Proportional_fonts - and actively posts on typophile.com forums. He's the only person I've ever met who says he never, ever, not once, does copyright infringement - not music, films, books, programs, nada - who I could totally believe. He has my utmost respect for being principled about things, although obviously we disagree about this issue. So, I think if you are not too busy, it would be great for OSP to take this on, since you are a design group and it would be good for Adobe to interact with designers who are using free software, since I doubt they have much experience of that yet. If you are to busy though, I'll be happy to take this forward :-) -- Regards, Dave _______________________________________________ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
