Yep, these are rather convincing numbers.  

One question that pops up in my mind is display real-estate.  Would the
same interface that runs on a PC screen be usable on a Palm?  My current
misconception is that different chunk sizes of cutting up things in the
interface require different implementations.  Is there a one size fits all
solution?

cheers
--bud 

At 12:36 PM 07-09-00 -0400, Wayne Wilson wrote:
>"Bud P. Bruegger" wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If there is a reasonably complete Java and a powerful enough CPU, there
>> would be Java implementations of JavaScript (eg. Rhino
>> http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/)...  Maybe a slow download..:-(
>> 
>The main problem is size of the javascript added on to the size for
>java. Since you already have java, why not use it?
>
>Here are two solutions for the embedded market:
>
>ICE ( http://www.icesoft.no/icebrowser5/index.html ) claims this:
>
>[Browser] HTML 4 Pilot -(180K, no native code) - this pilot is the core
>of the framework. +  ECMAScript Pilot (3K, no native code) - this pilot
>acts as a console for accessing ECMAScript scripter. 
>
>ECMAScript Scripter -(200K, no dependencies) - this module provides
>ECMAScript (JavaScript) functionality to the demo. It is based on the
>Rhino JavaScript engine from mozilla.org. 
>
>AvantGo ( http://avantgo.com/frontdoor/ ) says this:
>
>- Why aren't you including Full JavaScript on the consumer side? 
>
>In a word, size. Including every bit of JavaScript functionality that
>you might find on a desktop browser takes up an additional 270K. Our
>Enterprise users have no problem filling up their handheld devices with
>AvantGo functionality, because their main concern is getting their one
>AvantGo application up and running on the handheld device. Our consumer
>users, on the other hand, want to have AvantGo, their 12 channels, 5
>solitaire games and a Star Trek tricorder simulator all on their Palm
>III with 2MB of space. They're not as willing to give up 270K of space
>for more JavaScript functionality.
>
>- So what are you going to do to to get Full JavaScript on the handheld
>for consumers? 
>
>We pick and choose functions that we think would get the most bang for
>the buck on the consumer side. (Such as form validation.) We expect that
>when everybody's upgraded to 8MB handheld devices and space isn't such
>an issue, we'll consider giving everybody the Full JavaScript version.
>
>
>
>
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