Answering the last question first: clearly that is the death knell of a 
project.  One language.

I would add to the problems of a reasonable GUI over the web, the problems 
of printing.  This is why I think one has to have Java app's on the 
client.  We deploy using JAR's that contain everything.  I think that's 
what David does too.

John

At 11:22 AM 5/1/01, you wrote:
>John S. Gage wrote:
>
>>What's the story about this:
>>http://www.dbxmlgroup.com/
>
>Dont' know the story.  I find it an interesting idea and would like to see 
>some production systems deployed.  The last time I looked at this I 
>concluded that for the server side it was still a little too early for us, 
>and that there are no client tools available.
>
>I still have the same issue as to how you do a reasonable GUI over the 
>web, starting and ending in XML.  Everyone says you just use XLST.  But, 
>XLST is not only another programming language, it is declarative.  I am 
>sure this presents few problems to the programmers on this list.  But I 
>have to be sensitive to increasing the complexity of a development 
>environment to a team of a dozen programmers, only a few of which are 
>senior enough to not be troubled by adding in a second, completely 
>orthogonal language.
>
>   Besides, does everyone really want to have to use two programming 
> languages each and every time you write a GUI?
>
>
>

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