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Then I guess I'm somewhat surprised that the US government isn't actively solving the health information technology problem that has been so eloquently described on numerous occasions ("one jumbo jet crashing every day") with the lowest cost, best piece of software for the job.
 
    Alas, it is sometimes difficult to live in a democracy where the Government is not expected to mandate everything to the people, we still have choice.
 
After all, if the government pays for healthcare, it can also actively exert control over its quality.
 
    The Government does not pay for healthcare for most Americans (44.5%), but they are actively involved in a number of mandated technology initiatives designed to improve healthcare for all. This involves mandating standards, not a particular software.  (HIPAA Transaction and Code Sets, NEDSS)
 
Moreover, it takes standards to build a medical software system that meets users needs. It does not necessarily start with the full-blown EMR. There is a more "object oriented" or component approach that can lead to the open source EMR everyone wants.
 
There are several US initiatives that have grown to worldwide acceptance that help to lay the foundations for an EMR that will meet the needs of US healthcare providers. To name a few, LOINC form Regenstrief to code the observations, Prot�g� form Stanford to build the necessary ontology, and HL7 (Tyson Corner, VA 1987) to set the framework for good messaging based on an object oriented RIM, to name a few.
 
The biggest problem we face is not in developing a desktop EMR application that sits in every docs office, but in developing an application that can seamlessly send that data from the office to ANY hospital that that doc admits a patient to, or any other specialists office that the generalist refers a patient to. Will it be open source, maybe. But I don't really care. I want it to work with the people I work with and fit into the flow of patient care, be reliable, and affordable. It comes down to return on investment, and for the busy MD in practice in the US, that means having a vendor that can provide support. Can open source do that?
 
 
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Right now, the VA is really at the forefront of information technology-based patient safety initiatives, yet there does not appear to be the tiniest inclination on the part of anyone at all in the US government to extrapolate these life-saving initiatives outside the VA.

In addition, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe VistA has been attacked again and again in Congress by representatives swayed by lobbying from VistA's opponents.

And incidentally, I know that Octo et al are Americans, I just wish that their initiatives had been adopted nation-wide by the US government.


On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 01:37 AM, Cecil O. Lynch, MD wrote:

Absolutely true. Not only was VistA developed from US Congressional

funding, it was inspired by USA VA doctors and administrators who are

paid by the US government, in a language developed by a team of USA

doctors at Mass General funded by the USA NIH and maintained by VA

programmers paid from the US Treasury.


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<<I think all it takes is one major country throwing its resources behind 
VistA and the rest is history.  Certainly, the good old US of A is not 
the right country.  Quite the contrary.  If VistA had to depend on the 
US Gov for its survival, it would be long dead.>>

If it were not for the US government (in the form of the Veterans Administration) paying for the years and years of development, VISTA would not exist today.  As a matter of fact, if it weren't for the VAs persistent spending on VISTA it would have died long ago.

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