Have a look at http://cargo.codehaus.org, don't know if it fits your
needs, but can be an asset when doing functional tests on different
containers.

Mvgr,
Martin

On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 15:18, Don Grodecki wrote:
> Wayne,
> 
> Let me know the name and version of the JSP server that you wish to use, and 
> the version of Java you wish to use, your processor and your operating 
> system, and we will take a crack at it, for free, unless it proves 
> intractable, which I doubt for the cases Tomcat, Resin, and JBOSS. We are 
> also big into Websphere.
> 
> PS: Will Ross from ARCH in Mendocino says hi!
> 
> - Don
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: OpenHRE software available
> 
> 
> Thanks David and Don for the information.
> 
> Let me give some more perspective on why I asked the question.
> 
> I am responsible for running (operations) a JSP server farm.  We
> currently use Resin, but we used to use Tomcat back in the 3.X release
> days.  What we have found is that our particular installation of the
> server, ranging from java release levels, to additional jar's to where
> we locate the software and finally to configuration directives gradually
> evolves over time into something quite specific to this server
> environment.  Recently we ran into seemingly intractable robustness
> problems and I lobbied to switch to another JSP server, JBOSS.  It
> turned out that the labor involved in such a switch was so great that we
> ended up investing significant time in problem solving.  Thanks to a
> great staff and java 1.5, we think we solved the problem.
> 
> Another data point: We have purchased two commercially supported
> applications based on JSP server technology.  IN both cases, it became
> highly problematical to try to adapt those applications to our JSP
> server world.  We ended up installing those applications according to
> how their developers packaged the system, including the supported
> install of the JSP engine.
> 
> What that ended up doing is having my group, i.e. server operations,
> treating the application installed on a dedicated server as if it was a
> vendor supplied blackbox, i.e. an appliance.
> 
> Since my long range strategy is to adopt appliance solutions where ever
> possible this should be acceptable.  An issue arises, however, in that
> this model does not scale well unless one makes the move away from
> commodity hardware!  By that, I mean that the installation, on-going
> physical operation and management of these appliances can get to be a
> problem in it's own right!
> 
> And that leads me back to what the hardware vendors will supply and
> support as the starting point for any application bundling effort.
> 
-- 
Mvgr,
Martin

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