Tim Churches wrote: > Thomas Beale wrote: > > Where? Where can I obtain these systems, load them on my laptop and > server, and try them out with my data? You keep asserting that they are > there, I keep asking "Where?",. > What you really want is a free download URL off the internet. We don't have that yet for everything, although we do have it for the client-side parts. But please don't go around saying the software doesn't exist just because a published download URL doesn't exist. If you want to engage, all the URLs will (obviously) be supplied. > > You have offered access to an openEHR repository running on your server, > to be cacessed via a closed source DLL which needs to be used via > Microsoft C# in a .NET environment. So when I try loading 10 million > records, how can I monitor server CPU and memory usage? That's the sort > of thing I and others are interested in doing. > At the moment we are just doing tests ourselves like 10m records. We will publish those figures as we generate them. As mentioned before if you are serious about trying the system, we can certainly discuss a local installation. Not on this list though. > Hmm, they said the same of your colleagues... > I'm sure they did. But which one has the system running - easily (< 2y work)? Which one has built all the archetype and template tools for openEHR? Which one has an object database investment management system running in the biggest insurance company in Australia? If you want to say "something doesn't work" it helps to actually study the specifications and the domain first. The people had not, based on their answers to questions. Nor did we ever hear a single question from them on the lists during their so-called implementation phase. > > Then why haven't you made your openEHR kernel available, if it is not so > hard? You've been at it for long enough, surely? I'm not asking for it > to be open sourced, just a runtime version that can be experimented with. > We have decided not to open source the Ocean kernel yet for reasons mentioned earlier. > > Thomas, I would willingly adopt openEHR as the basis of working systems > of public health practice, if you would only tell me where, or from > whom, I can buy or otherwise obtain a general-purpose openEHR data > storage and retrieval engine. Not one on you server to try out via a C# > DLL, but one to install on *my* server for production use. How can I, or > most other people, be an early, middle or late adopter unless that is > available? > > Look, I have blood pressure measurements on 10,000 identified patients. > I wish to store and query that data in an openEHR system, using the > openEHR-published demographic and BP archetypes. So, please, tell me > what I do now to make that a reality? > we talk about how you want to approach a trial, as per my first post on the subject. The initial offer is to do it the way I said. If you are not interested in that, just say so. Some time soon we will go back to offering a full local install, when we have the resources to support that. I really don't see what is hard about this. I have to say conversations on this topic elsewhere (including in open source-obsessed academia) don't go on like this. I think I am in the wrong place.
- thomas beale
