David How about taking the time to re-write your charter so that it is not vague and has an appropriate scope?
I asked some of the questions right after you posted it. Although I disagree with the approach in OAuth, that is not what the topic is -- it is a vague and broad scope. -- Dick On 2010-06-04, at 8:10 PM, David Recordon wrote: > I don't think that it does anyone – let alone adoption – good for us to be > arguing about this on mailing lists. We very clearly have different > approaches to similar problems, but I think that we want the same thing in > the end though possibly on different timelines. I'm supportive of overlapping > work groups as a way to encourage innovation and look forward to seeing any > of the v.Next work groups produce technology. > > --David > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Dick Hardt <dick.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-04, at 7:49 PM, David Recordon wrote: > >> Given that it's Friday at 8pm, I'll do my best to answer Dick's questions. >> Dick's assertion that the proposed Connect work group charter, "is vague, >> wide ranging and heavily overlaps other working groups" certainly applies to >> the v.Next proposals as well. > > I had asked clarifying questions the day you posted the charter. > > The v.Next WGs were decided upon at the OpenID Summit and existed prior to > any public disclosure of Connect. > >> >> The first sentence of the charter clearly states that the work group will >> be, "complementing other active OpenID Foundation Working Groups." If the >> Discovery work group becomes active and produces useful technology, it would >> certainly be adopted! > > please add that in then > >> To date no one in the OpenID Foundation has done technical work on discovery >> since OpenID 2.0 was finalized. It's thus reasonable for it to be in scope >> and later abandoned if all works out. If it is removed from the scope and >> the Discovery work group doesn't produce a working proposal, this work group >> 1) couldn't discuss discovery and 2) would have to be fully rechartered in >> order to work on discovery. > > why not do the discovery work in the discovery WG? ... why duplicate the > effort? you are part of the community, so you can participate in the > discovery WG and promote the discovery work you want done. Makes no sense to > do the same thing in two places. > >> >> The goal of the charter is to help frame the problem the working group is >> going to solve; not answer all of the questions about how it will happen >> before the work group is even created. > > Not sure what that means. Your charter is vague. Please review my questions I > inserted and tighten up your charter. I am not asking how the work will be > done, I am asking for the charter to be clear and appropriately scoped. > > -- Dick > >
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