OpenID extensions must be carried by indirect messages (through the
browser).  If you're looking for ways for server-to-server communication to
get attributes, I suggest you look at OAuth.  Specifically perhaps the
OpenID+OAuth extension, which could enable the RP to send the request
directly to the OP for these large payloads you're talking about.
--
Andrew Arnott
"I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death
your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre


On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Nat Sakimura <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmmm. So, there is no way we can do direct communication in an extension? What
> I want to do is to send the large payload directly between the servers and
> move only the reference through OpenID Authn request and response so that
>
> 1) mobile clients will not choke.
> 2) is going to be more secure.
>
> In AX, there is a notion of update_url, but is that also used only for
> indirect communication through browser?
>
> I feel that it is extremely limiting if we cannot do the server to server
> communication.
>
> If that is not a possibility, then I should probably do the server to
> server portion elsewhere, and just do the reference/artifact moving through
> OpenID AuthN, but that sounds like OpenID strangling itself.
>
> =nat
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM, James Henstridge <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Nat Sakimura<[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I blogged bout the subject here:
>> > http://www.sakimura.org/en/modules/wordpress/index.php?p=91
>> >
>> > What would be the consensus here?
>>
>> My reading of the spec (and what I believe is the author's intent) is
>> that OpenID extensions do indeed piggyback on an authentication
>> request.  The note about including the extension's type URI in XRDS is
>> a way that an OpenID provider can advertise support for the extension.
>>
>> Note that in OpenID 2.0, sending openid.identifier in an
>> authentication request is optional.  So you could potentially use an
>> extension without actually authenticating as a particular user.  From
>> section 9.1:
>>
>> """
>> "openid.claimed_id" and "openid.identity" SHALL be either both present
>> or both absent. If neither value is present, the assertion is not
>> about an identifier, and will contain other information in its
>> payload, using extensions (Extensions).
>> """
>>
>> James.
>>
>
>
>
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