John,
You changed the topic of this thread.
This thread was about artifact binding, not about Government LoA.
That's another thread :-)

Yes, Artifact helps LoA, but it is not only that.
It helps the mobile space immensely.

=nat

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:00 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chris
> I think we are agreeing.  OpenID needs to play to it's strengths.   Chasing
> shiny things is tempting.
>
> We need to carefully consider the impact of changes.
>
> That is not to say that openID shouldn't evolve.
>
> There are always tradeoffs.
>
> Remember that a GSA LoA 2 or 3 profile is focused on the Gov accepting the
> assertions for specific uses.
>
> Other people are free to make there own determinations for other use cases.
>
> I am interested in finding out if IdP really want to be certified at LoA 2
> with all of the extra identity
> proofing,  liability and other things that go with that.
>
> A LoA 2 certification for a IdP involves a lot more than just tweaking some
> protocol peaces.
>
> Are there OPs  that want that?
>
> John B.
>
> On 13-Aug-09, at 9:11 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Some may ask if we add artifact binding, signatures and encryption are we
>> not reinventing SAML Web SSO, or something of equal complexity?
>
>
> I would like to know more about this, but my instinct is always to say "NO"
> for as long as possible when any new feature will a) introduce complexity
> and b) stifle or impair potential adoption.
> That we've come as far as we have is a feat; maintaining that momentum is
> critical — and that means making good on the promise of what OpenID offers
> *today* — and only extending it with real world examples where people are
> implementing kludges (en masse) to serve a common need.
>
> Chris
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