I don't either. One of my contemporaries at Oxford just became Prime Minister. I doubt he would have been much better or worse if he was five years younger or fifteen years older.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:32 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't see what age has anything to do with technical discussions (which is > what this list is meant for). > > > > On May 18, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Santosh Rajan <[email protected]> wrote: > > You know something, "James A Michener" once said "All men above forty are > stupid". Let me admit that I turned 50 in the month of march 2010. > How old are you "Phillip Hallam-Baker"? > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> To me the reason the problem goes beyond simply authentication + >> attributes is that we are providing a resolution mechanism for Web >> 'principals' identified through consistent, machine readable, human >> friendly identifiers. >> >> So 'Phillip Hallam-Baker' is not a useful identifier in this case as >> even though this example is unique, the class of identifiers it is a >> member of are not unique and thus not useful as machine readable >> identifiers. Contrawise any identifier of the form '=292rj239e!' might >> be machine readable in the right circumstances but certainly isn't >> human friendly. >> >> >> A principal here is most often going to be a Web User but could in >> certain circumstances be a computer process or agent running on a >> machine or could be some abstract corporate entity. >> >> A principal may be an individual or may be an individual acting in a >> specific role. So [email protected] and [email protected] might be the >> exact same person but respond differently due to the fact that in one >> role he may be acting in a corporate capacity. >> >> A principal might even by a physical location such as a building. >> malden#friendlies.com might be the Friendlies restaurant at Malden. >> >> >> A resolution of a principal may mean: >> >> * Authenticating an interaction with the principal >> * An email message >> * A log in attempt >> * A permission that has been granted by Principal A to Principal B >> * Initiating an interaction with the principal >> * An email message >> * An instant message >> * Making a reference to the principal >> * Asserting that the principal initiated a communication >> * Asserting that the principal has a property >> * Asserting that principal A is the source of assertion B >> concerning principal C >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM, SitG Admin >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My view is that we should stop talking about 'identity' all together. >> >> We should instead define the range of problems we want to solve as use >> >> cases and go solve them. Identity is too much of an abstraction, it >> >> can stand for anything. >> > >> > +1 to targeting problems rather than ideals (at that layer). >> > >> > The abstraction (of identity) is this community's strength and weakness; >> > it >> > names the Purpose that brings everyone together, and it calls in people >> > from >> > all over who may be able to contribute something. This concentration of >> > diverse ideas, though, doesn't create a single harmonious overlap of >> > equally >> > distributed strength; there are outliers, ideas that aren't shared much >> > by >> > others here. The two are opposite sides of the same coin. >> > >> > To restate this in a slightly different way, it's a popularity contest: >> > none >> > of us can decide what idea will see the most adoption, since none of us >> > can >> > make those decisions for everyone else. Nearly any idea is probably >> > going to >> > be seen as a bad one by *some* person in the group (Santosh helps make >> > statistics come *true*!), and we should each be prepared to occasionally >> > bite the bullet and accept that it's *our* turn to be left out in the >> > cold. >> > (Then leave our unpopular ideas behind and come in for a warm meal and >> > whatever work has got so many members of the community in the commons >> > house.) >> > >> > -Shade >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Website: http://hallambaker.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> specs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > > -- > http://hi.im/santosh > > > _______________________________________________ > specs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/ _______________________________________________ specs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs
