Active clients or no active clients -- I am in full support of creating best practices (using research) for login/connect style actions across a variety of platforms. Regardless of the technology used (and whether or not the technology actually exists yet), RP adoption depends on having a clear set of standards.

On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:

I think that the full spectrum makes sense as we would want consistent UX given that the charter of the core working group has the full spectrum

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of George Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:37 AM
To: OpenID user experience
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Vidya Shivkumar; Joseph Smarr; [email protected]; [email protected] ; David Recordon
Subject: Re: Draft OpenID 2.x User Experience working group charter

So I'm one who would like to see the UX for a full "spectrum of clients" be included in the charter. I think that many of the UX issues related to redirects and SP-Initiated logins can be solved with more "active" clients. I would like to see experiences that rely on more than persistent cookies or HTML5 local storage as the mechanism to remember user's preferences. Of course the UX for a user without an "active" client should work and be as smooth as possible.

Thanks,
George

On 5/31/10 6:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
Mike Jones prepared the initial version of this charter, and I took the liberty of renaming v.Next to 2.x, and made compatibility with 2.x an explicit goal of this work.

I'm reluctant of the applicability of this work to active clients and have subsequently removed this line:

· produce user experience guidelines for supporting for a spectrum of clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin active clients, and active clients with OP functionality,

Feedback welcome.

Chris

(a)  Charter.
(i)       WG name:  OpenID 2.x User Experience.
(ii) Purpose: Produce a user experience specification or family of specifications for OpenID 2.x that address the limitations and drawbacks present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID’s applicability, adoption, usability, privacy, and security. Specific goals are: · produce user experience guidelines for less intrusive authentication user experiences than full-page browser redirect, · produce user experience guidelines for controlled and uncontrolled release of attributes, · produce user experience guidelines for use of identities and attributes by non-browser applications, · produce user experience guidelines for optimized protocol flows combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization, · produce user experience guidelines for use of OpenID on mobile devices, · seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID 2.x specifications.

Compatibility with OpenID 2.x is an explicit goal for this work.

(iii) Scope: Produce a current generation OpenID user experience specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement. (iv) Proposed List of Specifications: OpenID 2.x User Experience and possibly related specifications. (v) Anticipated audience or users of the work: Implementers of OpenID Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications utilizing OpenID.
(vi)     Language in which the WG will conduct business:  English.
(vii) Method of work: E-mail discussions on the working group mailing list, working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the Internet Identity Workshop and OpenID summits. (viii) Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed: Work will not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the resulting protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the working group goals. Additional proposed changes beyond that initial consensus will be evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease consensus within the working group. The work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent with the purpose and scope.
(b)  Background Information.
(i) Related work being done in other WGs or organizations: Draft User Interface (UI) Extension. Kantara Universal Login Experience (ULX) working group. RPX product design. Facebook Authentication Guidelines. Google user authentication research.
(ii)      Proposers:
Chris Messina, [email protected] (chair)
Dick Hardt, [email protected]
Additional proposers to be added here
(iii)     Anticipated Contributions:  None.

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