On 7 Jun 2010, at 19:11, Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote: > Hi Henry - Yeah - having played with FOAF+SSL it is nice, albeit a bit of > work is needed at the moment.
yes, it is improving all the time. We really only have proofs of concepts for the moment, so not something that is end user ready. If the quality of engineering of the OpenId team would help out it would be unbeatable. > I think for that bit to get easier we either > need really good installers or, ideally, support by the browsers to make the > cert bits a no brainer. Did you see the video? I put it together myself, and it is my first screen cast so it is very clumsy. But if you get over that, you will see that creating a certificate is a one click affair. That piece could not be easier. http://bit.ly/axlT0s But yes browser manufacturers could do a little work and the core values of the original OpenId team at least (I have not followed the work recently) would be fulfilled. Firefox probably needs the most work at the UI level. But that just requires a bit of common sense on their part, no engineering feat. For the moment it is useable. Chromium (Chrome developer release) now works, and Opera is excellent. IE I think also works well (I don't have windows myself). That is also evident from the screencast. > > It is certainly the closest I have seen to OpenID just working in the > browser. Thanks. Now the very positive thing about OpenId is that it is a very important piece that can complement Web IDs very well. For browsers that don't support Web IDs, Open IDs are the next best thing. In fact I think that Open ID could use foaf+ssl to improve its protocol, so as to close that last gap. I pointed out how this can be done a while ago in "Making Open ID RESTful" http://markmail.org/message/oub3mhq4q4lpazwh I have updated the foaf+ssl openid section http://esw.w3.org/Foaf%2Bssl#OpenID Hope that helps, Henry > > /steven > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Story Henry > Sent: 07 June 2010 17:51 > To: Steven Livingstone-Perez > Cc: 'John Panzer'; 'SitG Admin'; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OpenID] Finally the Shit has hit the fan! > > > On 7 Jun 2010, at 18:42, Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote: > >> The idea in principal appeals but a lot seems to be dependent on >> browser vendor support & OpenID in the browser should really have been >> (and should still be [1]) a no brainer for the browser vendors - I >> anticipate the same level of "uptake" by them for this. > > It already works in the browser, and has for years. The problem is that most > people here don't want to look at the solution, because of fear of the > semantic web it seems, or some such (not sure). > > You can see it working in this home made video > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iZPJBpI2Po&feature=player_embedded > > (I welcome people coming up with better videos) > The protocol is detailed here: > > http://esw.w3.org/Foaf+ssl > > There are some small browser improvements that could be made, though it > would not take long to convince some of the browsers vendors to make them. > > Henry > >> >> >> In short, until we can get the browsers to put social as a first class >> citizen (and look how long universal OpenSearch support in the >> browsers >> took) we have a battle. > > _______________________________________________ specs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs
