Jerry, Solaris/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana-related OS distros are all built from a 'shared library (*.so)' model versus the 'static library (*.a)' model. Ensure you build with '--enabled shared --disable-static' and remove '*.a' libraries as applicable from your packages/manifests/etc. ~ Ken
On Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:07:37 PM, Jerry Kemp <sun.mail.lis...@oryx.us> wrote: Highlight, BIND 9.11.x has some neat new items I wanted to play/work with, so I compiled and installed a fresh copy of OpenSSL 1.0.2l, then attempted to compile a copy of BIND 9.11.2, linked against my new OpenSSL libraries. In short, the compile runs for some time, and actually produces (good && working) the actual binaries that I need. Example: ................................. ultra20m3 /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/named 537 # ./named -V BIND 9.11.2 <id:0a2b929> running on SunOS i86pc 5.11 oi_151a7 built by make with '--with-libxml2' '--with-openssl=/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64' '--prefix=/Applications/bind.9.11.2.64' '--enable-shared' '--without-gssapi' 'CFLAGS=-m64' 'LDFLAGS=-L/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib' 'LIBS=-lcrypto -lssl' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include -I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include/openssl' compiled by GCC 4.4.4 compiled with OpenSSL version: OpenSSL 1.0.2l 25 May 2017 linked to OpenSSL version: OpenSSL 1.0.2l 25 May 2017 compiled with libxml2 version: 2.7.6 linked to libxml2 version: 20706 compiled with zlib version: 1.2.3 linked to zlib version: 1.2.3 threads support is enabled # ldd ./named libdl.so.1 => /lib/64/libdl.so.1 libnsl.so.1 => /lib/64/libnsl.so.1 libsocket.so.1 => /lib/64/libsocket.so.1 libscf.so.1 => /lib/64/libscf.so.1 libpthread.so.1 => /lib/64/libpthread.so.1 libthread.so.1 => /lib/64/libthread.so.1 libxml2.so.2 => /lib/64/libxml2.so.2 libz.so.1 => /lib/64/libz.so.1 libm.so.2 => /lib/64/libm.so.2 libc.so.1 => /lib/64/libc.so.1 libmp.so.2 => /lib/64/libmp.so.2 libmd.so.1 => /lib/64/libmd.so.1 libuutil.so.1 => /lib/64/libuutil.so.1 libgen.so.1 => /lib/64/libgen.so.1 libnvpair.so.1 => /lib/64/libnvpair.so.1 libsmbios.so.1 => /usr/lib/64/libsmbios.so.1 # file ./named ./named: ELF 64-bit LSB executable AMD64 Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped, no debugging information available ................................. PROBLEM ENCOUNTERED IN SHORT The problem I am encountering: The compile bails out during compiling of the 'test' section. Actual screen captures at bottom of note. Also note - what is the ".32" and ".64" referencing on some of the directories? I did both a 32 and 64 bit compile of OpenSSL (both successful and functional), and then, I (attempted) both a 32 and 64 bit compile of BIND. Both compile attempts failed in the same place. ................................. ENVIRONMENTAL VARIABLES ++ CONFIGURE COMMAND LINE 64 bit compile setenv CFLAGS "-m64" setenv LIBS "-lcrypto -lssl" setenv SSL_CFLAGS "-I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include -I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include/openssl" setenv SSL_LIBS "-R/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib -L/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib" setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH "/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/xpg4/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/usr/dt/lib" setenv LDFLAGS "-L/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib" setenv CPPFLAGS "-I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include -I/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/include/openssl" ./configure --with-libxml2 \ --with-openssl=/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64 \ --prefix=/Applications/bind.9.11.2.64 \ --enable-shared ................................. ACTUAL ERROR OUTPUT NOTE:all my problems kick off in the bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/system/dyndb directory. making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/make making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/unit making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/include/isc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/include/pk11 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/include/pkcs11 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/unix making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/unix/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/unix/include/isc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/unix/include/pkcs11 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/nls making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/pthreads making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/pthreads/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/pthreads/include/isc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/x86_32 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include/isc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccc/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccc/include/isccc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/dns /usr/ccs/bin/make include/dns/enumtype.h `include/dns/enumtype.h' is up to date. /usr/ccs/bin/make include/dns/enumclass.h `include/dns/enumclass.h' is up to date. /usr/ccs/bin/make include/dns/rdatastruct.h `include/dns/rdatastruct.h' is up to date. /usr/ccs/bin/make code.h `code.h' is up to date. making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/dns/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/dns/include/dns making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/dns/include/dst making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccfg making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccfg/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/isccfg/include/isccfg making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/bind9 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/bind9/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/bind9/include/bind9 making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/include/lwres making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/man making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/unix making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/unix/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/lwres/unix/include/lwres making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/irs making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/irs/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/irs/include/irs making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/tests making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/tests/include making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/tests/include/tests making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/lib/samples making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/named making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/named/unix making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/rndc making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/dig making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/delv making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/dnssec making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tools making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/atomic making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/db making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/dst making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/master making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/mem making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/hashes making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/names making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/net making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/rbt making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/resolver making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/sockaddr making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/tasks making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/timers making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/system making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/system/dlzexternal making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/system/dyndb making all in /usr/local/src/b/bind-9.11.2/bin/tests/system/dyndb/driver CLEANED=`echo "../../../../../lib/dns/libdns.a ../../../../../lib/isc/libisc.a -L/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib -R/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib -R/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib -lcrypto ../../../../../lib/dns/libdns.a ../../../../../lib/isc/libisc.a -ldl -lnsl -lsocket -lscf -lpthread -lcrypto -lssl -lthread -L/usr/lib -R/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lpthread -lm -lsocket -lnsl" | cat`; \ ld -L/Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib -G -z text -o sample.so db.o driver.o instance.o lock.o log.o syncptr.o zone.o \ ${CLEANED} ld: warning: symbol '_init' not found, but .init section exists - possible link-edit without using the compiler driver Text relocation remains referenced against symbol offset in file .text (section) 0x20 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0x38 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0x50 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0x68 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0x80 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0x98 /Applications/openssl-1.0.2l.64/lib/libcrypto.a(cryptlib.o) .text (section) 0xb0 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