You don't have to. I'm bored talking with people doesn't hear me.

And I also said everything I could say. The decision is up to you.

No need to kick my ass out of this list.

---- On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:25:29 +0700 Aurélien Larcher 
<aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote ----

 > 
 > 
 > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:12 PM Hung Nguyen Gia via openindiana-discuss 
 > <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
 > I have no power to make decisions. But I will show you what I mean when I 
 > said SANE or INSANE.
 >  
 >  First, we have to know where we are. The glory of Solaris has faded to the 
 > past.
 >  
 >  Today, we are even inferior to FreeBSD! Honestly speaking, if someone 
 > wanted to build a server, both for normal or storage purpose, I would 
 > recommend them to use FreeBSD.
 >  
 >  FreeBSD got their ZFS from Illumos, right. But today, FreeBSD's ZFS is more 
 > easy to use and more stable than Illumos!
 >  
 >  Not to mention initiative like ZoF. You are left behind. Yes, I know you 
 > will going to go to OpenZFS 2.0, too.
 >  
 >  Since there is no where else you could go. You don't have the ability to 
 > maintain ZFS yourself.
 >  
 >  Then the only way is to rely on Linux people's work, ZoL, with a fancy 
 > rename to be OpenZFS 2.0, nothing other than ZoL with a bunch of #ifdef for 
 > other minor OSes.
 >  
 >  Yes, you are now being a minor OSes. Accept it or not, you are no longer 
 > upstream. Do you feel any shame when it's all reversed? From being upstream, 
 > now just a downstream minority only able to going thanks to the mercy of the 
 > Linux guys?
 >  
 >  Not to mention, if it's about a desktop system, what OI is for, OI is 
 > completely inferior to FreeBSD.
 >  
 >  Just download GhostBSD, compare, and see.
 >  
 >  The BSDs could reject Pale Moon, because they have PLENTY of alternatives. 
 > They have working Firefox, some of them even Chromium.
 >  
 >  What do you have now? Are you in a place you could do as them? No way!
 >  
 >  Do you able to show me even just a preview version of the Firefox you are 
 > working on?
 >  
 >  You can't, do you?
 >  
 >  It's SANE to just import Pale Moon into the encumbered repo. They are 
 > plenty of software they install to /opt, doesn't it? Just put Pale Moon and 
 > all of their sh8t shipped libraries there and no one care.
 >  
 >  It's INSANE when you don't know what you are and where you are but act as 
 > like you have plenty of choices when indeed you have NONE. You are not any 
 > less ARROGANT than the Pale Moon devs. I think it can only be MORE than them.
 >  
 >  Accept that you are LOSER, and do your best to get back to your place, it's 
 > what SANE people do.
 >  
 >  INSANE people talk very much about discipline, 'quality standard', bla 
 > bla... but indeed can deliver nothing! Proving wrong very easy, give me a 
 > preview of your Firefox! But I know, you can't.
 > 
 > Hi,
 > there is probably no question that illumos is a minor OS when it comes to 
 > the size of the community; hardware support and software availability is 
 > therefore more limited than systems backed by big companies and a few 
 > hundred developers.
 > 
 > However until now this small community has always been courteous and 
 > friendly.
 > 
 > Could you please make your point in a less offensive manner and possibly be 
 > more constructive?
 > 
 > These mailing lists are a place for people exchanging ideas and providing 
 > help, not for arsonists.
 > 
 > If you cannot cool your jets you'll be sent off the pitch for one week.
 > 
 > Kind regards,
 > 
 > Aurélien
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > 
 > ---- On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:16 +0700 Volker A. Brandt <v...@bb-c.de> 
 > wrote ----
 >  
 >   > > All of your so called 'quality standard' are just pure BS. 
 >   > > 
 >   > >  > Buf if you really want to act like a boss and have Pale Moon on OI 
 > as 
 >   > >  > your wish, consider DM-ing me? I think I can arrange that for you 
 > -- if 
 >   > >  > you pay me will enough, of course. 
 >   > >  > 
 >   > > 
 >   > > I don't want to be boss. The fact is I suffered from such people on my 
 > real life. 
 >   > > 
 >   > > But frankly speaking, your team needs more people like that. At least 
 > they are SANE. 
 >   >  
 >   > With your superior intellect, and your sharp powers of observation, in a 
 >   > matter of days, you have identified many of the problems the incompetent 
 >   > and insane OI devs have failed to fix for years. 
 >   >  
 >   > Congratulations! 
 >   >  
 >   > So which one are you going to start working on first? 
 >   >  
 >   >  
 >   > Regards -- Volker 
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