Hi Nelson, thank you for testing
Considering Graphics card support within illumos, I doubt you will be
very happy with desktop components on any Virtual Machine Platform. We
do not have the advanced virtio Graphics Card drivers Linux has so you
will always have a bad time with desktop on anything other than nvidia
and certain intel at the moment.
Vmware has a Graphics card model which is part of Upstream Quemu which
was reported to work well, if you have that as an options use that.
As for the Usage on Virtual Machines. 90% of that will be server related
tasks without GUI. Text installer will be much simpler to install on a
VM Platform like oVirt.
I saw in an earlier mail, that you mentioned Text Garbage spam in the
VM. That was due to SPICE protocol (the display share protocol in
libvirt/RedHat) using the Scroll Lock Key as a Keepalive signal. As
illumos is a Solaris derivative OS it never had support for the Scroll
lock key as there was never any keyboard connected to it that had that
key. We have fixed this in 2018. Since then illumos ignores that key.
Virtualbox is supported and regularly tested as part of the vagrant VM
releases. Same goes for KVM/Quemu. For GUI on Virtualbox, you will need
to install the Virtualbox OSE extensions packaged in OI. And you must
use the OpenSolaris VM profile. Otherwise Graphics glitches and other
problems occur.
-Till
On 26.04.21 14:21, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote:
This report follows earlier ones under the subject "The kiss of death"
that supplied installation reports for virt-manager/QEMU on CentOS 7
and Ubuntu 20.04, and VirtualBox on another Ubuntu 20.04 system. This
one is fairly positive, so I felt it deserved a new subject line.
Today, I successfully installed OpenIndiana Hipster from
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/test/OI-hipster-gui-20210405.iso
on OVirt/QEMU running on CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810 (Core).
As I noted in an earlier report, this virtualization system has the
advantage of live VM migration, at a cost of considerably more complex
VM creation and management. However, once a VM has been successfully
installed, the platform has been rock solid, and we routinely use the
VM migration feature to move VMs off one server to another, run system
updates on the first, reboot, and move back its VMs, without the VMs
even noticing their two moves.
I took both OVirt snapshots and ZFS snapshots during the installation
steps, with multiple reboots, and have now successfully copied over
/var/opt, /opt/csw, and $prefix/texlive/2021 trees from other systems.
No boot problems have been observed this time.
However, there are a few other problems with OpenIndiana Hipster on
OVirt:
(1) Ovirt offers three console types: QXL (default), VGA, and CIRRUS.
With QXL, the GUI desktop is too high to fit on the screen. Moving
the mouse near the bottom edge slides up the display to make the
bottom task bar visible. Moving the mouse near the top edge makes
the top menu bar only partly visible. However, in neither case
can the mouse select icons.
I shut down the system, changed to VGA, and found the same
behavior as with QXL.
I again shut down the system, changed to CIRRUS, rebooted, logged
in, and now the screen is fully visible, but the mouse cannot
select actions from the menu bar or tool bar. Curiously, moving
the mouse over a toolbar item, such as the network icon, produces
a yellow popup window that describes the button. One just cannot
select it.
With all three video types, there are generally two mouse cursors
on the screen, but with CIRRUS, they remain within 5mm of each
other.
Those mouse problems make the desktop almost unusable. With the
mouse in the central region of the screen, I can get a popup menu
from which I can start a terminal. However, the Applications /
Places / System / Network / ... menu bar items are unusable.
Unlike VirtManager and VirtualBox, which have menu buttons to send
Ctl-Alt-Fn and Ctl-Alt-DELete input to the VM, the OVirt button
can only send Ctl-Alt-DELete, so there is no way to select
alternate consoles that are supported by most operating systems.
With another VM installed on virt-manager/QEMU on Ubuntu 20.04,
there were no such icon selection problems, and I was able to
reconfigure that system for static IPv4 addressing.
If someone knows what program is started by clicking on the
network menubar icon, please report it; I've never had much
success with manual changes to files in the /etc/ tree on Solaris
family systems to switch between DHCP-assigned and static IP
addresses.
(2) During the installation, I selected Denver, CO, USA, from the
world map, and it definitely showed that choice in the text bar
under the map. However, when the system rebooted, the timezone
was still UTC, the clock was off by hours, and /etc/localtime did
not exist. The OVirt control panel shows the clock should be a
hardware clock set to "(GMT-00:00) GMT Standard Time". I fixed
that problem by
# ln -s /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo/America/Denver /etc/localtime
# ntpdate time1.google.com
After fixing those issues, creating users accounts (more snapshots), I
ran
# pkg install build-essential
# pkg update
# sync
# sync
# poweroff
I made another OVirt snapshot, powered on, and the system is now ready
for use.
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