On 21/05/2024 09:28, Rainer Heilke wrote:
Just a quick update:
I'll still try to see if I can find any OpenIndiana.org references to smc (not having found them yet, I suspect they were third party pages), but I don't think I'll get to play with RBAC. It seems my test system likes to lose any USB drives on reboot, and when/if I get them back, all data is gone. zpool is even telling me that one zpool has a property that has never existed on this box:
This pool uses the following feature(s) not supported by this system:
         com.klarasystems:vdev_zaps_v2
cannot import 'Work': unsupported version or feature

That cannot be handled on OI, see:
<https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/zfs-unsupported-feature-com-klarasystems-vdev_zaps_v2.93029/>

It's even losing the internal SSD.
I'm loath to play around with RBAC, or anything else, on my OmniOS backup server. And I doubt I can get any OpenSolaris flavour running on a Raspberry Pi. :/   I even got a pair of 4TB drives for this (they were surprisingly inexpensive). To quote Gary Olman's character in 5th Element, "I'm getting very disappointed!"
Rainer
I wonder if there's something in the BIOS...


------ Original Message ------
 From "Rainer Heilke" <rhei...@dragonhearth.com>
To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org>; "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org>
Date 2024-05-14 11:13:24 AM
Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre




------ Original Message ------
From "Rolf M. Dietze" <r...@orbit.in-berlin.de>
To "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org>
Date 2024-05-14 12:43:55 AM
Subject Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Management Centre


Quoting Rainer Heilke <rhei...@dragonhearth.com>:

On 5/13/24 22:50, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:

On 14. May 2024, at 08:12, Rainer Heilke <rhei...@dragonhearth.com> wrote:

Hi.
I keep running into documentation that tells me to do a task by firing up the Sun Management Centre, but OI doesn't seem to have it, nor can I find any way of getting/installing it. Is it available for OpenIndiana? Is it maybe in a different repository? The documentation needs to either explain how to get it, or any reference to it needs to be purged, IMNSH opinion. If the former, I may be able to help a bit, as energy levels allow.
??
Rainer
I’m afraid, it is long dead. So yes, if you see the references, please do file the issue (and patches are also very welcome!).

thanks,
toomas

I'll look into how to file issues, and make a note of the pages I've  already found.

Unfortunately, that means a number of documents need to be fleshed out with the proper chain of commands to perform the functions, and I don't know how much I can help. Aside from limited energy, I never  had to deal with RBAC, etc. This is new-ish territory for me, having  always used sudo when I was working. (I want to learn the "proper"  RBAC way of doing things, even if only for kicks and giggles, which  is why I was looking into this in the first place.)

Rainer
Hi Rainer,

I use RBAC quite often, on Solaris as well as on OpenIndiana since I
am running Sunray desktops for class on Solaris in kiosk mode to have
the students connect to OpenIndiana machines for their tasks to do.
The students have to do admin stuff on the target systems but are all
homed on one OpenIndiana machine to start from. So RBAC and resource
management are needed. If you reference to the old Solaris 10 documentation,
both run smoothly. I do not use any GUI but xterm for that as for most
tasks on theses boxes. Have a look in the old documentation. Resource
management works quite the same as on solaris 11, also have a look there

By the way, I do have an issue with resource management on OpenIndiana,
that is, if a student runs against certain limitations mostly in number
of lwps, the resource management terminates the X server. That it does
for all sessions. Haven't had the time to dig into this and I am not
sure if it is of any interest since my setup is not so commonly used.

The Sun Management Center was a long and not so enthusiastic story as
since Solaris never had consistent admin GUIs as example smit on AIX oder
sam on HP-UX

Rolf

Thanks, to everyone.
I'll try to file issues in the next few days -- I have other (non-computer) issues to deal with today. I think that before I start asking questions, I need to wrap my head around the general structure of RBAC. What comes first, that sort of thing. Then my questions will at least make sense, and I won't be wasting everyone's time. Till: funny how you mention just dealing with openindiana.org pages. Oracle's pages all still reference SMC as well. :b Not much help, are they? ;-)
Rainer




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