Hey Paul,

> While re-running this, via top I do see kipmi0 using ~1% - 7% (yes, 
> not a good metric ;-)), but that's about it.  The machine is otherwise 
> as snappy as usual.

The kipmi is from OpenIpmi kernel driver.  So I don't think it'll have
any affect on SOL.

Al

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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Armor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Openipmi-developer] Re: [Ipmitool-devel] SOL connection
issue, BMC "locked up"

> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Albert Chu wrote:
> 
> > Hi Paul,
> >> I'd enabled hardware flow control (as Steffen Grunewald had 
> described>> on the ipmitool list, thanks Steffen!)
> >
> > I can't remember the exact kernel internals logic/reason, but I 
> believe> if hardware flow control is turned on, the kernel will 
> spin(?) (atleast
> > eat up a lot of cycles) waiting for the ability to dump data out the
> > console.  We've only seen this with normal serial connections, 
> but it
> > wouldn't surprise me if the same applied for SOL.
> 
> While re-running this, via top I do see kipmi0 using ~1% - 7% (yes, 
> not a 
> good metric ;-)), but that's about it.  The machine is otherwise as 
> snappy 
> as usual.
> 
> > If the above case happend, it would suggest ipmitool wasn't 
> capable of
> > handling the SOL traffic quickly enough.  That's unlikely.  But 
> as you
> > said, perhaps things haven't been stress tested.
> 
> I'm not sure... one thing about these BMC's is that they use what I 
> think 
> to be ridiculously small packets (with my test, 144B)... in fact a 
> simple 
> test shows that they'll only respond to pings of <= 302B.
> 
> > A few UDP packets lost
> > here and there on the network and ipmitool not ack-ing SOL packets
> > outside of a certain sequence number range could probably cause it.
> > (Note, I don't know the internal logic of ipmitool for this 
> example, its
> > just an idea.)
> 
> Interesting.
> >
> >> Has anyone else done any "stress" testing and seen a BMC just fall
> >> down?
> >
> > Never to the degree that you've stated.  Although there are 
> situations I
> > can imagine where it can happen.  For example, if the maximum 
> number of
> > Lan sessions were alive and connected to the BMC (presumably in
> > background/sleeping processes you weren't aware of it), then the BMC
> > could be out of resources and may not respond to additional traffic.
> > But that's just a guess.
> 
> OK, perhaps Duncan can chime in? ;-)
> 
> > A fun black-magic trick I found with some "locked up" BMCs was to
> > simultaneously ping the node w/ rmcp and ipmi at the same time.  For
> > some magical reason, this "unlocked" some BMCs for me.  I use 
> 'rmcpping'> and 'ipmiping' which are in the FreeIPMI project.
> 
> nifty!  I'll see what happens, if I'm able to reproduce...
> 
> Thanks!
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
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